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Specter

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So whats the story
« on: May 26, 2026, 08:04:40 PM »

So whats going on with Energica?
any real news and not just the fluff pieces and bullshit they been puffing out here and there.
its like watching a re run of lightning tactics with the lies and ommissions.

for example.   have they officially made ANY official statement that their CEO quit back in February?  if not (hint, pretty sure they didnt)
why are you hiding that kind of info?  if you are trying to secure funding etc wouldn't the prospective marks need to know that kind of info, hell wouldn't anyone need to know that kind of indo?   isn't there a law that says stuff like that needs to be divulged?

we keep hearing,  oh soon,  ooh any day now, and nothing more except fluff pieces that don't have much of any real content to them.

who ARE the real investors?  why are you hiding their id's,  rumor has it they are indian, and are running thru singapore for 'tarriff issues' and other 'issues' with that whole .... 'optics'.     wouldn't that be kind of illegal or shady at best if it is true?

where is your income coming from to keep running?  or even start back up.  again, the rumor mill and what was dug up thru document searches shows that it appears most the money to buy the company was crowdfunded, ok fine you own the company now... now how you going to keep it running w/o any kind of income.  you already fired anyone who was ANYone in the company.  well we have our own people, we don't need their senior engineers and programmers etc.  stuff like that shows a huge incompetence.  stuff like that kills a company.   or are you just another venture capitalist scumbag like the ideanomics clowns were, really don't give a fuck about energica, and just want to suck it dry, or actually purposely destroy it, so you can use the writeoff to hide revenues or launder?

what is being seen so far does not show a company trying to return, it shows more crooked business dealings or at least huge incompetencies in the leadership, which will also kill the company.

who knows, when it goes tits up again come sept / october maybe the next buyers can get it for 100k and then do something with what little might be left.  by that time itll be about worthless because with new companies coming along like lightfighter etc, and constantly progressing technology, your one trick pony will soon be obsolete, and without any new r and d or even any production.  nobody will be interested anymore because you will at that point be so far behind the times, you'll never be able to recover.

how many people from the original team still are on with the company?   why DID the ceo quit / get fired?  id love to hear that one.
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Re: So whats the story
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2026, 10:39:25 PM »

This lead me to check in on our mate Rob De Munk (the one that did the outreach) aaaand he’s left the company in May. Oh.
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Re: So whats the story
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2026, 01:23:18 AM »

more and more its smelling like more scamming.
crooked investors and so on, why lie about your origins?  if they are coming in deceptive, who would EVER trust them, and why?

seriously has anyone heard anything from them that has any real substance to it?  A company supposedly on its way back, tends to keep a bit of a presence, not hide in the shadows.

ive e mailed them a few times asking questions, not originally as sharp as these and zero reply.

all the equipment that was allegedly shipped off to be put back together .... where ever to restart the company. where is it.   my last update was it's essentially sitting in shipping boxes on a dock somewhere going nowhere?

do they even have a building yet at their 'new home' where is it even supposed to be.  has anyone seen any documents, tax or otherwise showing, they applied for a business license or whatever anywhere ..something you have to do to open shop.  of course there's going to be a ton of regulatory stuff too. anything, showing any kind of progress, instead of a 20 second ai generated we'll be back soon video?

they say they are going to restart in italy now. supposedly.  well i thought that was why you moved out of italy to begin with was because it was too expensive there, now its ok?  if you are staying there, well shit, all your stuff is still there, why the huge delay turning the key and turning the lights back on?

every time you hear, more people are getting fired / leaving, but hear nothing of anyone to replace them, except, oh we have one guy who worked at zero for almost a year, he's one of ours, who will replace all their engineers etc.  oh really?  news flash, Energica's are not Zero's, no matter how good that man is, he's going to struggle, severely.   Then there's people like Chris, who can probably unbuild and rebuild these things in his sleep, knows every quirk and bugaboo these things have had over their entire decade of lifespan.  That kind of tribal knowledge is irreplaceable at any cost, yet you treated him like trash and kicked him to the curb too.  let me guess, you have another one of your guys, who worked for jiffy lube who can be your lead mechanic.

From very modest estimates, it'll take at least 3 to 5 years to get this thing even semi back on it's feet.  To run a company like that, as big as it once was, even with the employee count decimated, it's probably going to gobble 20 - 30 million dollars.  if you had to scrape and scrabble and crowd fund to get together 2 million dollars, adding another zero to that for your next round of begging, well, good luck with that!!

sounds to me like a group of kids, who made their 'fortunes' in some indian call center somewhere scamming people, put their skills to task to scrape up the money to buy a motorcycle company,  wow, bet the chicks dig that!!  now face the real world where arrogance / ignorance / and imcompetence just don't work, and there's no script or partner in crime to hand the mark off to to save the steal  deal. and are up shit  creek without a paddle.  that's ok just shit in the street, nobody will notice.

we'll see in a few weeks, come june, when they were supposed to open back up, and be back in business what excuses come up next.

has anyone who originally did that survey for parts, been contacted about getting them, shipping, costs etc.  anything?
has anyone gotten ANYthing from them?  any parts shipping anywhere?

i get it, they are not doing business in America, closed everything down over here, but what about over the pond? heard rumors, but any real deals, or dealers?  or all just still talk?  dealers in the us who want to continue doing business, they wont talk to.

how are you going to build bikes, when you can't get the parts?  if you have the parts, why aren't you building already, or at least sending parts to customers who need? at very least that'd generate income for you AND some good faith.  rumor also has it, a lot of 'parts' they don't even own the rights to, designs, blue prints, etc are owned by someone else, and those people are really not happy with what they see, and not willing to get in bed with this new team.

why don't you hire someone who has a bit of a business sense to run that thing for you before you destroy it totally, or is it too hard to find someone who is willing to stand in front of a camera and lie their ass off to everyone for you?  let's put some of these 'rumors' to rest with some truth for a change.
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Re: So whats the story
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2026, 01:38:14 PM »

last news for me, in France:

crashed the bike in early December 2025
in late December, called an energica (and many other electric bikes) dealer who told me he has just been contacted by the new owners to get business back on tracks, so I left the bike with him
March 2026, dealer calls me saying that he had more news and that parts were expected for June 2026
yesterday I call him and no new yet

I'm still hopeful, based on the fact that the dealer is, but not much more to report.
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Re: So whats the story
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2026, 05:25:34 PM »

What’s really behind "Energica Pte. Ltd."?

For those of us still riding, it’s time to look past the corporate PR and face the reality of how our brand is currently structured. If you’re wondering why communication has gone dark and why parts are nowhere to be found, here is the breakdown of what we’ve uncovered about the "new" Energica.

The Facts:
"Energica Pte. Ltd." was incorporated in Singapore in July 2025 as a Special Purpose Vehicle (SPV) to acquire the assets from the Italian insolvency auction. If you look at the registry, the company lists two different addresses in Singapore—International Plaza and High Street Plaza. To anyone familiar with corporate structures, these are clear-cut "virtual office" or "mail-drop" locations. They aren't factories, and they aren't service centers. They exist solely to hold the legal title of the company on paper.

Why this is a red flag for us:

Total Decoupling: The current structure intentionally isolates the intellectual property (patents, brand rights) in a Singaporean "shell" company, while completely detaching it from the day-to-day operations in Modena. This means the people holding the "keys" to the brand have no physical connection to the shop floor where our bikes are built or serviced.

Complete Lack of Transparency: As a Private Limited Company in Singapore, there is zero obligation to disclose who the actual investors are. We are dealing with an anonymous entity. Whether they are long-term enthusiasts or just "vulture" investors waiting to flip the patents, we have no way of knowing.

The "Brain Drain": The recent departure of key personnel, including the CEO and Robert de Munk, confirms that the internal bridge between the Singaporean paper-entity and the Italian operations has collapsed. There is no one left to advocate for the riders.

What does this mean for us?
Don't wait for "official" updates from Singapore. That office is a legal fortress designed to protect assets, not to support owners. We are currently in a state where the brand exists in name, but the operational support has effectively been liquidated.

ENERGICA PTE. LTD.
10 Anson Road
33-10C International Plaza
079903 Singapore

Register address:
24. July 2025.
Entity Status: „Live Company“
Unique Entity Number (UEN): 202532304C.
77 High Street, #10-12B, High Street Plaza, Singapur 179433.
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Re: So whats the story
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2026, 05:46:59 PM »

Bingo.^^^
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Re: So whats the story
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2026, 03:47:29 AM »

basically once your shit breaks, it's done for, especially with the marriage arrangement of many of the critical parts, even if you find a replacement, they made it so you cant, unless you can hack the software and schmooze the codes to love each other again.

another option is to just put your own control software in there, if you know what you are doing, its not that hard.  as for motor control, most of that stuff is cots.  the rest is redundancy and shit to make it legal for the road.

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Re: So whats the story
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2026, 07:01:41 AM »

I wonder who is running their InstaGram account. It's fairly active, though nothing substantive has been reported as far as I can see...
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Re: So whats the story
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2026, 12:51:15 PM »

I found the Energica Motor Company listing on Google Maps.
I went ahead and wrote two reviews right away. Join in ;)

https://maps.app.goo.gl/GPGTYViUyk5W3SWn7
« Last Edit: May 30, 2026, 01:00:08 PM by ACDC Biker »
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Re: So whats the story
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2026, 12:16:23 PM »

So here we are, it's june and Energica is supposed to be shipping bikes by now right?

any word, about anything?

yah didn't think so.

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Re: So whats the story
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2026, 01:21:09 PM »

So here we are, it's june and Energica is supposed to be shipping bikes by now right?

any word, about anything?

yah didn't think so.

aaron
Has anything EV related ever been available on the date promised?


People are still waiting for their 2020 Tesla Roadster. Now promised for 2028.    In 2028, I wonder what the new date will be.


But with Energica, maybe after our lifetimes. But I doubt it will be that soon.


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Re: So whats the story
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2026, 05:36:48 PM »

To be fair, Zero has pretty much delivered every new model I can remember them announcing at the promised time...
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Re: So whats the story
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2026, 07:21:37 PM »

To be fair, Zero has pretty much delivered every new model I can remember them announcing at the promised time...

As a Zero customer since 2012, that is my observation, too.
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Re: So whats the story
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2026, 09:32:01 PM »

i understand your point don but this isn't a startup or new item being brought to the market.
at least an update would be nice, but then again, look what we are dealing with.

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Re: So whats the story
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2026, 09:54:36 PM »

Can Energica owners collectively sue the entity that holds assets and IP regarding VCU firmware support to surrender a computer application to upload from existing VCU, save for future need and download to VCU when a hardware replacement is required?  Seems this would not infringe on IP and as consumers we would be given opportunity to preserve our investments.  Just wondering...reality is the answer is, no.
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