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Richard230

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LiveWire Doki speculation
« on: April 27, 2025, 07:06:53 PM »

Do you think this name will catch on? Not much of a "preview". https://www.motorcycle.com/bikes/new-model-preview/livewire-files-trademark-for-doki-44621143
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Re: LiveWire Doki speculation
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2025, 08:52:41 PM »

I wonder if any of these people in marketing have ever been to a British comprehensive school. As any fule kno, something called a Doki would immediately be christened a Dorky, and the subject of much ridicule.

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Re: LiveWire Doki speculation
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2025, 10:39:30 PM »

sometimes they do it on purpose. ok the kids make fun of it,   bfd.  THAT is free publicity, and if the product is halfway decent, then the rents don't care what the crotch goblins think.

before we found out  how truly perverted and evil they really were, look at when disney did their little controversies in movies.  oooh... the smoke said sex,  the priest popped a boner,  the tower looks like a penis etc etc. next thing you know the entire world is talking about it, it's on the news, late night is cracking on it, people are running out and getting a copy to see themselves etcetc.  look at the market saturation and actual engagement that causes!  it'd literally cost billions of dollars for that kind of exposure otherwise.  a quick quip or quirk is marketing gold.

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Re: LiveWire Doki speculation
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2025, 03:31:29 AM »

Here is a short "review" of the LiveWire Doki. The presenter talks more like an AI than a real human: 
« Last Edit: August 03, 2025, 03:37:05 AM by Richard230 »
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Re: LiveWire Doki speculation
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2025, 05:06:47 AM »

80 highway miles with a 9 kw battery, even at only 300 lb i call bullshit. i wonder what they call highway speed?
it looks neat but man you drop that thing and that's a lot of expensive fairing and frillies you just scratched the hell out of.

you are absolutely correct, it's AI talking, you'd think by now the shit would pronounce words correctly, how much more training does it need for the simplest of tasks?

i wonder how much they are going to ask for it, if they mentioned it i missed it

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Re: LiveWire Doki speculation
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2025, 06:33:41 AM »

The price wasn't mentioned and I am not going to listen to that blog again. Frankly, while it was only 5 minutes long, it really should have been 2 minutes long. And I think calling it Dorky would be the correct name for the bike.  ::)
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Re: LiveWire Doki speculation
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2025, 09:35:56 AM »

I dont trust that video to be real. The Livewire logo is wrong and it doesnt have the arrow architecture.

Like the new Live Wire One that had an exhaust in the video.

Fake AI garbage?
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Re: LiveWire Doki speculation
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2025, 02:22:53 PM »

That is 100% fake AI garbage and you should be ashamed for linking it
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Re: LiveWire Doki speculation
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2025, 07:08:56 PM »

That is 100% fake AI garbage and you should be ashamed for linking it

I guess I just don't understand why anyone would produce and publish a completely fake video about a motorcycle. What is the point and why do they do it? I can see it happening all the time regarding politics, but motorcycles about a brand that hardly anyone is interested in? If you think I should delete the link I will do so, if I can.
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Re: LiveWire Doki speculation
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2025, 09:56:10 PM »

That is 100% fake AI garbage and you should be ashamed for linking it

I guess I just don't understand why anyone would produce and publish a completely fake video about a motorcycle. an.
I'm going to guess "because they CAN."  ::)
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Re: LiveWire Doki speculation
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2025, 10:02:05 PM »


I guess I just don't understand why anyone would produce and publish a completely fake video about a motorcycle. What is the point and why do they do it? I can see it happening all the time regarding politics, but motorcycles about a brand that hardly anyone is interested in? If you think I should delete the link I will do so, if I can.
The algos are just trying to figure out what people will click on. There was a whole rash of these in my feed a couple of months ago. “2025 Honda CBX 1050!!” “2026 Suzuki GS 1150E!!” The thumbnails were a cleaned up old bike on a showroom pedastal at some trade show, to make you think they made a new tribute model or something. The objects and titles that people click become favored for future AI farm content.
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Re: LiveWire Doki speculation
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2025, 10:07:54 PM »

They do it because they are cheap little whores who are in desperate need of page clicks for revenue.
Some people don't know any better, even the ones who do, have to watch it partway to realize, hey, this bs is fake, so they still get some kind of partial credit for a view off that.

Even if you all post in their comments, you are a dirty little whore who should rot in hell for this fake ai crap,  THAT right there is audience interaction, and that counts a lot for monetization purposes.

At the end of the day, many of these scum churn out these type videos on pretty much every topic you could imagine for the page clicks because page clicks = pay check.

Morgan, he may not have known it was fake or lies, he seen the video and thought he was being nice and posting it for us.  This isn't the first time someone has posted inaccurate stuff thinking it was the real deal.  It won't be the last either.

Now that we are on the cusp of the AI revolution, stand by for an explosion of total bullshit generated by AI, by people exploiting it for their own personal gains, just like in the 'wild west' days when the internet got out past us nerd pop back in the 90s.
Calcium Coral !!!!!  only$79.99  for a 50 pill bottle (that cost 96 cents to them)  Sea Silver - YOU can be natural too for only $49.99 !!!
Get paid to click, paid to read, paid to answer, get paid to breathe !!!!!  just watch these advertisements and get rich!!!

oh you yoots have no idea what's coming...

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Re: LiveWire Doki speculation
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2025, 03:32:33 AM »

I think you are right, Aaron. I sure hate feeling like a sucker. I am not looking forward to the day (likely not far away) when AI has become smarter than we are.  >:(
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Re: LiveWire Doki speculation
« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2025, 04:47:41 AM »

I like how the thumbnail says LVEWIRE
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Re: LiveWire Doki speculation
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2025, 04:58:34 AM »

Richard you are not a sucker.  This is all new technology and being a decent person, you expect other people to be that way as well, so stuff like this can get you easier because of your innocence <sp>, if that makes sense.  You look for the good in people, and they use that to do their bad to you.

I've been doing this internet shit since the early 80s back when you had to dial into a bbs somewhere, so have seen pretty much every scam come and go time and time over.  It's like every 10 years or so a new generation of shitheads comes of age that think they invented the scam, so recycle it in some form using the latest tech.  Couple that with my military service, and some of those years being in a, lets just say, an investigative /  disciplinary role, and getting to see daily, the worst humanity has to offer, seeing and hearing it day after day, I guess I am just a cynical old bastard, yes my outlook is very jaded, but there's a reason  I am this way.  ;)

back to AI

AI learns from people, ai is being programmed to be like people...let that sink in for a moment here.

AI is already smarter than humans, but not because it's smarter, but because as a general, humanity has become much stupider over the generations.  They don't teach people how to do things, critical thinking, and life skills like they used to anymore.  They teach them to rely on someone else, some THING else to do things for them, take care of them, give them answers to everything, find it, fix it for them.  Yes it makes life easier but also makes the person more vulnerable, because they less capable.  He siri, what is this, how do i do that, what is the answer to that, hey grok, how long does it take a laden squirrel to fly 30 furlongs in a fortnight?

When AI starts lying to us (hint it already is, big time too), they are not going to have a clue, because they never learned how to do this stuff on their own, to be able to CATCH AI in it's lie.  AI is already lying to you.  That was the point of my one post, it TOTALLY made up a part that did not exist.  Nobody it seems caught it, because they just trusted the bla bla was fact because AI said it, or because they were too lazy to go look themselves?  Does it even matter anymore, the paradyne shift is in progress and you nor I are going to stop it.

At least you have the self awareness to see that AI IS going to be a problem.  so many don't have the slightest clue, and can't wait for the next 'improvement' to hit their entertainment in box.  Weed and WiFi man, were good.

Just take everything you see or hear with a huge grain of salt in today's world.  BUT BUT..there's a video of it !!  it's all fake now, and soon unless you were standing there yourself, you'll never know the difference.  We will be forced back to the world where you will have to learn to trust your sources once again, which is a good thing, the days when Trust was vital, and a mans word was his honor and bond, and integrity meant everything. are going to come around once again, but it will be a very painful righting of the ship.

Aaron
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