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Richard230

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Re: Bad News
« Reply #60 on: October 20, 2024, 02:21:57 AM »

Here is a long article regarding this subject published by Revzilla five days ago which just landed in my inbox earlier today: https://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/electric-motorcycle-manufacturer-energica-reported-on-the-verge-of-closure
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« Reply #61 on: October 20, 2024, 02:57:17 AM »

Interestingly, the German website is still active without any reference to the problems. However, if you look at the dealers, 14 are displayed, of which only 3 still have Energica on their homepage! The rest either Zero or no more electric motorcycles at all...  I wonder if the dealers who now represent Zero had more information in advance...
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« Reply #62 on: October 20, 2024, 08:43:00 PM »

Fuck. My ss9+ has been bricked for over a month because of an "undefined error" pointing to the inverted. Can't even pull the logs myself to diagnose further because it's dealer only. Does anyone have an idea? I guess this is why energica hasn't been responding to anything...
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Re: Bad News
« Reply #63 on: October 20, 2024, 09:21:19 PM »

Anyone have a connection to Jay Leno?  Roger Penske?  I know Penske was a significant partner to the MAX BMW franchise.

This really sucks.  The Experia got looks from everyone every time I charged up.  People were fascinated with the bike, the looks, the capabilities, the story.  What am I supposed to tell them now?
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« Reply #64 on: October 20, 2024, 10:02:19 PM »

Tell them it’s no a very rare motorcycle :)
Today I was also out and was asked while charging about the Experia.
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Re: Bad News
« Reply #65 on: October 21, 2024, 01:13:39 AM »

Tell them it’s no a very rare motorcycle :)

Experia has always been a rare motorcycle, I suspect there are less than 500 customer owned bikes world-wide.

Anybody have an idea as to the highest VIN..?? Mine is a "Launch Edition" and only #29, so quite an early one.

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« Reply #66 on: October 21, 2024, 01:53:24 AM »


Anybody have an idea as to the highest VIN..?? Mine is a "Launch Edition" and only #29, so quite an early one.

I just ordered mine from Energica and the VIN in the invoice ends with 306. Not sure if that number is how many they manufactured in 2024 or an all-time total.


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Re: Bad News
« Reply #67 on: October 21, 2024, 11:32:15 AM »


Anybody have an idea as to the highest VIN..?? Mine is a "Launch Edition" and only #29, so quite an early one.

I just ordered mine from Energica and the VIN in the invoice ends with 306. Not sure if that number is how many they manufactured in 2024 or an all-time total.

Will probably be an all time total...they have not changed since released, except a couple of colour/cosmetic changes. Mine was actually built in very late 2022...but I didn't actually pick it up from my dealer until 17th Feb 2023.

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« Reply #68 on: October 21, 2024, 01:55:47 PM »

Mine is also a Launch Edition, VIN ends on 113. I‘ve picked it up from a Dealer last year who used it for his show room.
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Re: Bad News
« Reply #69 on: October 22, 2024, 01:53:14 PM »

I sure would like to see some electric Guzzis and Aprilias. Perhaps Piaggio might take the opportunity here?
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Re: Bad News
« Reply #70 on: October 22, 2024, 03:31:05 PM »

From what I have been hearing from a lot of Aprilla dealers, they are having trouble getting parts shipped for them.  I know a few in Florida finally said enough of this, were done with you and dropped their support for Aprilla.  If aprilla is having these kinds of issues as well, I don't think we'll be seeing a lot of electric R and D out of them in the short term.  Even if they bought Energica lock stock and barrel, they'd still have to tool up etc etc,  that's a lot of buxxx.  don't see an electric anytime soon TBH.

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Re: Bad News
« Reply #71 on: October 22, 2024, 04:46:23 PM »

Experia has always been a rare motorcycle, I suspect there are less than 500 customer owned bikes world-wide.

Anybody have an idea as to the highest VIN..?? Mine is a "Launch Edition" and only #29, so quite an early one.

Smithy.


My for-sale Ribelle RS has a VIN ending in 621.  Still accepting offers, thanks!


The NHTSA VIN Decoder reports that the VIN belongs to a 2023 model year bike, but is it likely that 620 other bikes were made just in 2023, or is that in total over all previous years?  I wonder how many of those were fleet vehicles.

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Re: Bad News
« Reply #72 on: October 22, 2024, 05:27:08 PM »

2022 Ego RS VIN ends in the 130's.  Just another Data point.
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Re: Bad News
« Reply #73 on: October 22, 2024, 06:40:01 PM »

You also have to remember, the USA is, for lack of a better word, kind of a second market,  they sold a lot all over the world, each with their own unique vin numbers etc.  Just because the US numbers may be a bit low does not mean they are not selling bikes,  can anyone get any info on what the EU sales are, or a breakdown by country, what about Oz?  India, Russia?  any sales there,  the UAE?   

just curious

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Re: Bad News
« Reply #74 on: October 22, 2024, 11:04:04 PM »

Looked up our sales history on Energicas.  We sold 31 new ones since early 2018.  We were one of the very early dealers, and one of the largest ones.  2020-2022 were the hottest selling years.  To put that in comparison, we sell almost that many Aprilias per month, every month.

EV sales really dropped after 2022.  We gave up Zero this year as we went a year without a sale, and we couldn't get parts to properly support the others.  We were a Zero dealer since 2012 and used to consistently sell a few per month, then sales came to a sudden halt.

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