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Richard230

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A cross country ride on a LiveWire
« on: August 17, 2020, 04:05:49 AM »

Here is a short article about a fellow who rode across the U.S. on an H-D LiveWire electric motorcycle: 
https://electrek.co/2020/08/14/harley-davidson-livewire-electric-motorcycle-3500-mile-cross-country-ride/
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Re: A cross country ride on a LiveWire
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2020, 05:52:15 AM »

Good stuff. We’re slowly getting to the point where ad hoc trips like this will be as easy as doing it on a gas bike. I applaud his willingness to somewhat “wing it” in regards to planning his charging stops. I’m not sure I would be up to attempting a trip like that without meticulous planning.
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Re: A cross country ride on a LiveWire
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2020, 06:14:34 AM »

Good stuff. We’re slowly getting to the point where ad hoc trips like this will be as easy as doing it on a gas bike. I applaud his willingness to somewhat “wing it” in regards to planning his charging stops. I’m not sure I would be up to attempting a trip like that without meticulous planning.
I wouldn't. I store the charge locations I expect to use in my Garmin GPS. If I were going that far, I would also use PlugShare while on the road.

BTW, I would rather do that trip across the country on your Ribelle any day. I wonder how many times he had to charge at ~1.5 KW. I doubt if he could find CCS everywhere he went across the county. He probably got stuck overnight at a few RV parks for his ten hour charge.

-Don-  Auburn, CA
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Re: A cross country ride on a LiveWire
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2020, 06:35:52 AM »

Good stuff. We’re slowly getting to the point where ad hoc trips like this will be as easy as doing it on a gas bike. I applaud his willingness to somewhat “wing it” in regards to planning his charging stops. I’m not sure I would be up to attempting a trip like that without meticulous planning.
I wouldn't. I store the charge locations I expect to use in my Garmin GPS. If I were going that far, I would also use PlugShare while on the road.

BTW, I would rather do that trip across the country on your Ribelle any day. I wonder how many times he had to charge at ~1.5 KW. I doubt if he could find CCS everywhere he went across the county. He probably got stuck overnight at a few RV parks for his ten hour charge.

-Don-  Auburn, CA12

When Electric Terry was riding back and forth across the country 8 years ago on his 2012 Zero he would usually stay at hotels for the night. Sometimes he would bring his Zero into the hotel's elevator and then into his room where he would recharge it over night.   ::)
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Re: A cross country ride on a LiveWire
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2020, 07:55:23 AM »

When Electric Terry was riding back and forth across the country 8 years ago on his 2012 Zero he would usually stay at hotels for the night. Sometimes he would bring his Zero into the hotel's elevator and then into his room where he would recharge it over night.   ::)
Did he sneak it in or get permission?

-Don-  in 104°F Auburn, CA
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Re: A cross country ride on a LiveWire
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2020, 08:42:42 AM »

I put my Zero in the hotel as a party prop!

I sorta... Winged it.  I said I needed to use the freight elevator for a 'wheeled prop' ^-^

Hehe.

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Re: A cross country ride on a LiveWire
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2020, 04:08:18 PM »

Nice article but I didn't see how many days it took him to make the trip. Would love to know how many  times he had to charge on L2/L1 compared to CCS.
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Re: A cross country ride on a LiveWire
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2020, 08:30:58 PM »

When Electric Terry was riding back and forth across the country 8 years ago on his 2012 Zero he would usually stay at hotels for the night. Sometimes he would bring his Zero into the hotel's elevator and then into his room where he would recharge it over night.   ::)
Did he sneak it in or get permission?

-Don-  in 104°F Auburn, CA

I don't recall that he said.  But I wouldn't be surprised that he slipped it in somehow. Terry is nothing if not creative.  ::)
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Re: A cross country ride on a LiveWire
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2020, 06:25:56 AM »

Nice article but I didn't see how many days it took him to make the trip. Would love to know how many  times he had to charge on L2/L1 compared to CCS.

I asked this was well and Diego told me between Jun 3-21. So like 3 weeks. So like 166 miles per day.
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Re: A cross country ride on a LiveWire
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2020, 07:10:24 AM »

166 miles a day sounds like most of the charging was at L1 speeds. As in ride for 2 hours or so, charge for 8-10 hours, ride for another 2 hours or so and repeat this day after day. A few years ago I rode a section of the Blue Ridge Parkway on my Eva and cover 414 miles using only CCS charging. Pretty sure a Zero  with 6.6 kw L2 charging would cover a lot more than 166 miles in a day.
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Re: A cross country ride on a LiveWire
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2020, 09:12:19 AM »

I literally just did 200 miles on an SR/F yesterday and could have done more if I had started earlier than 2:30pm.
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Re: A cross country ride on a LiveWire
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2020, 09:42:02 AM »

I literally just did 200 miles on an SR/F yesterday and could have done more if I had started earlier than 2:30pm.
I do around 200 miles on most of my rides.

I did my last 200 miles three days ago on my Energica. I took Hwy 80 to Truckee, down 237 on the west side of Lake Tahoe, to Hwy 28, to hwy 89 to back home on Hwy 50.

I did three CCS charge stops. Truckee Save Mart, South Lake Tahoe and Pony Express Trail Shell gas station at the Pollock Pines on Hwy 50. I checked into each on Plugshare, with photos.

I still had 50% SOC charge when I got home. Even the SS9- can go about as far as I can on a charge. Out here, the SS9-  has all the range I need as there are CCS chargers everywhere around this area.

-Don-  Auburn, CA (where they just added new  CCS chargers at the Target Store on Bell Road).
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Re: A cross country ride on a LiveWire
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2020, 11:22:24 AM »

Yeah and most of them are free right now due to the Drive the Arc promotion.
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Re: A cross country ride on a LiveWire
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2020, 12:45:09 PM »

Yeah and most of them are free right now due to the Drive the Arc promotion.
I think that is just for CHAdeMO, not CCS.

Anyway, I was charged at each location:

Dear Donald,

Thank you for using the charging station at Aisle 1 Fuel Station South Lake Tahoe #177 - 1020 Emerald Bay Rd, South Lake Tahoe, CA. Your charge session has ended. The total duration of this session was 00:20:21 and the energy charged was 5.270 kWh. Your total cost for the session was $6.00.

For more information, please check your account on the EVgo App or in the driver portal.

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Sincerely,

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-Don-  Auburn, CA
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Re: A cross country ride on a LiveWire
« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2020, 04:22:12 PM »

$6 for 5KWh!!

<splutters coffee over keyboard>

Cas :)
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