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[Crissa]

Does anyone know the details of how the EV surcharge is going to work this year?

I can't find any good articles on it, but it sounds like an additional $100 to registration... Is that to the 'new' registration or is it to the renewal (which are slightly different fee?

In California, that's equal to buying over 200 gallons of gasoline.  Which is like, driving my car 6K miles, let alone a motorcycle.

-Crissa

[Sklith]

$100 is nothing. Here in Georgia it's $212.78 per year, and I'm paying for that with my Tesla. I'm not sure if I'm going to need to pay the same for my Energia.

[Crissa]

$200/$0.31 per gal=645 gallons of gasoline.  That's 20K miles in my car!

That's insane.  Someone should sue the state, claiming no prudent interest in this tax.  Laws have to have a reason and apply equally, not just be punitive.

-Crissa

[ultrarnr]

North Carolina used to have the EV tax on electric motorcycles but has since stopped. I paid it for several years on my Zero but it stopped a few years ago. I am paying it on my Tesla though!

[Richard230]

What I read in my newspaper a few years ago when the delayed additional "road tax" was passed is that electric vehicles would be charged an additional $100 registration fee, on top of the original price-based fee, both when first registered and each year thereafter when the vehicle's registration was renewed.  Needless to say that electric motorcycles have never been mentioned in any article or news report regarding the new fee, only that rich people owning Teslas deserved to be taxed more than they were to help pay for road maintenance.  (And how are your potholes doing today?     )

Frankly, I am not even sure if the California state legislators even are aware that electric motorcycle exist.     They ought to be giving us a free ride since they are always complaining about loud motorcycles (saving lives) and we have solved that problem. 

I renewed my Zero's registration last November, so I will not be the first person to verify if electric motorcycle owners get screwed with this new registration road tax fee this year.

 

[NEW2elec]

$100 is nothing. Here in Georgia it's $212.78 per year, and I'm paying for that with my Tesla. I'm not sure if I'm going to need to pay the same for my Energia.

Yep you sure will.  I had to pay it on both of my Zeros.  I wrote my Senator and he agreed it should be different for cars and motorcycles but nothing changed.  I think I sent him a break down that showed i would have paid about $36 in gas tax for the miles I rode for a bike that size.

[Sklith]

Yep you sure will.  I had to pay it on both of my Zeros.  I wrote my Senator and he agreed it should be different for cars and motorcycles but nothing changed.  I think I sent him a break down that showed i would have paid about $36 in gas tax for the miles I rode for a bike that size.

You sure are the bearer of bad news! I hope this gets some attention soon, it should be at most 1/5 of the standard EV cost IMO.

[Doug S]

I wrote my Senator and he agreed it should be different for cars and motorcycles...

By that logic, all motorcycles should get almost all their gasoline tax back because we cause essentially no wear and tear to the road surfaces. It's a high-order function of axle loading, so it's like 80% caused by semis, 20% by cars (though there are far more cars on the road), and pretty much none by motorcycles.

[Crissa]

Well, I guess we won't find out until March when people start getting their registrations... They're supposed to start charging it in July.

But I just paid $226 for my Mazda and $192 for my Zero.  Will I really spend more on my Zero next year?

-Crissa

[NEW2elec]

Yep you sure will.  I had to pay it on both of my Zeros.  I wrote my Senator and he agreed it should be different for cars and motorcycles but nothing changed.  I think I sent him a break down that showed i would have paid about $36 in gas tax for the miles I rode for a bike that size.

You sure are the bearer of bad news! I hope this gets some attention soon, it should be at most 1/5 of the standard EV cost IMO.

Sorry about that, but you asked.   
Yeah GA did a 180 from giving a 20% EV tax credit to a $200 FU.

Doug I guess the real road damage is from the tanker truck that brought the gas to the station in the first place.

[HoodRichOG]

$200/$0.31 per gal=645 gallons of gasoline.  That's 20K miles in my car!

That's insane.  Someone should sue the state, claiming no prudent interest in this tax.  Laws have to have a reason and apply equally, not just be punitive.

-Crissa

Where are you buying gas for $0.31?

[Crissa]

Where are you buying gas for $0.31?

Georgia has a 31¢ per gallon gas tax that this EV fee is supposed to replace.

-Crissa

[togo]

> Does anyone know the details of how the EV surcharge is going to work this year?

According to this, it's a $100 fee per EV in California, starting in January 2021.

https://www.myev.com/research/interesting-finds/states-that-charge-extra-fees-to-own-an-electric-vehicle

It's crazy that a 100 Wh/mile Zero should pay the same as an electric Hummer.

Surely the road-wear of the Hummer is 10X.

[Richard230]

> Does anyone know the details of how the EV surcharge is going to work this year?

According to this, it's a $100 fee per EV in California, starting in January 2021.

https://www.myev.com/research/interesting-finds/states-that-charge-extra-fees-to-own-an-electric-vehicle

It's crazy that a 100 Wh/mile Zero should pay the same as an electric Hummer.

Surely the road-wear of the Hummer is 10X.

Just another example of our state legislators having no interest in, or being aware of electric motorcycles.  We don't make the news.  What they hear all of the time is about rich Tesla owners who (they believe) wouldn't mind paying another $100 each year when registering their vehicles. So it is likely that our bikes just got swept up in the rush to tax Tesla owners.   

[motorrad36]

Here is the link to the bill text: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180SB1

bill itself says:"a new $100 annual vehicle registration fee applicable only to zero-emission vehicles model year 2020 and later, with an inflation adjustment, as provided"

So almost none of us should be paying the extra fee until we upgrade to a post-2020 model!