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[Ireek]

Since I am a weekend warrior [emoji3] and my rides usually last for 3 hours once or twice a week, I am pleased with the off board charger. Would not like the bike to be heavier than it already is, carrying a heavy charger.

I think it takes 2-2.5 hours to fully charge the pack. Not bad.

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Yeah, just don't get too far away and you'll be fine.  I have a Honda AT DCT, Rally 250 and CRF230 playbike so I'm covered but I would've liked to have known the EX was coming, I would have waited on it...

[odedmaz]

Since I am a weekend warrior [emoji3] and my rides usually last for 3 hours once or twice a week, I am pleased with the off board charger. Would not like the bike to be heavier than it already is, carrying a heavy charger.

I think it takes 2-2.5 hours to fully charge the pack. Not bad.

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Yeah, just don't get too far away and you'll be fine.  I have a Honda AT DCT, Rally 250 and CRF230 playbike so I'm covered but I would've liked to have known the EX was coming, I would have waited on it...

Seems to me you are covered in the off road department. The EX is not a substitute to the SM. It is basically a MX with licensing equipment. Other differences are minor IMO.

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[odedmaz]

So what would be your estimation on run time on trail conditions in the video attached?
180# rider moderate speeds.

Since I have the bike for a week or so, I can't really tell.
It seems like a flowy single tracking, so I guesstimate 3-4 hours?? Perhaps those with more experience chime in.
This is not the type of riding I usually do. I'm after ascends & descends...

Nice riding BTW

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[Judaslefourbe]

Sadly our owners manual is outdated; I am working on updating it and in the mean time, please use this:

[Marshm]

I have a question related to pushing resistance.  On a gas bike, there have been times when I kill the engine, leave it in gear to lock up the back tire, then grab the front break and attempt to walk/slide/fall down a hill.  Depending on the hill, sometimes you just cannot ride it.  You cannot go back up either, so you better have another way out.  It's not common, but I have done it as a choice in some cases, or its been forced on me by going down a sand hill that ends in a cliff and it would have been hard to get turned around to go back up.  Is it possible to lock up the rear wheel with having to hold the break lever?  As far as pushing the bike when it runs out of power, I heard of people taking the chain off.  That's a pain but it would provide low rolling resistance.  I imagine there has to be resistance to pushing because it is turning some gears and the motor.  Unless there is a shift type lever for putting into neutral or the one gear.

[Fran K]

I do not have an Alta but did bring up the pushing.  One can feel what it is like on the showroom floor.  A bit of resistance and a bit of a lumpy feel to it definitely different than a transmission bike in neutral.  It for me becomes an issue when coming to a stop and having to drag the bike backwards.  One can use the throttle to help go forward or as a brake of sorts on a hill if pointing up.  It isn't really all that significant say if you have to push your bike from the parking to the start or something like that.  Just sort of significant initially getting it rolling and when one has to push backward chances are the wheel is in a hole in that situation.  There may be different types of electric motors, that bike bandit link lately specifically said what kind was in the freeride and skipped it for the zero that seemed to push easy.

[odedmaz]

Video of my first day out with the Redshift EX -

[NEW2elec]

MMMmmm that new bike smell 
Great video man really nice closeups and drone work.  It looks like it ate up that rocky ground like it was nothing.

Enjoy.

[ultratoad]

Yep....  That's some pro video work right there....  Very well done....

[Fran K]

I would have hoped it was quieter with only single stage reduction and helical cut gears.  After that not much point of having the sound on.  Lots of folks seem to like music to their videos though.  They are supposed to have demo day sometime soon for a club I am a member of. 

[Marshm]

It's a nice surprise when I check these posts to see if anything is new, and I find a video.  I like watching the videos people post.  Thanks.

[odedmaz]

Thanks guys.
Amazing how the video smoothen everything up. There were some nasty climbs & rocky terrain. Watching the video, it seems like a walk in the park..

The Alta just run over anything in its path. With the FX, I had to plan ahead more.

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[Ireek]

Man, all this EX chatter is going to make me go into debt:(  What a fun thread this is!!

[MostlyBonkers]

Man, all this EX chatter is going to make me go into debt[emoji20]  What a fun thread this is!!

+1

Looks like a lot of fun. I took my 2014 Zero DS off road a few times and loved it. Unfortunately I came to the conclusion that the bike isn't designed for it, despite its Dual Sport designation. It's not just the belt drive but also the bearings. They're not sealed! Which idiot designed that?!? It is also rather heavy of course, but I can cope with that.

Now, I wonder whether they sell them in the UK and how many coins they want...

Thanks for posting!  :-)

[Marshm]

I do prefer a smaller bike though.  MX is pretty much straight line riding with a big sweeping corner at the end of each straight section.  It is much different than single track and woods riding.  A long bike gives stability at speed, so thats ok for the track, but not so good for offroad.  I wish the dual sport Alta was not the same as the MX version. Shorter and lower would be nice.