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JaimeC

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Range oddity
« on: June 18, 2026, 06:00:48 PM »

Here's one I never saw before. I was riding my 2020 SR/F home from Brooklyn and traffic on the Long Island Expressway was EXCRUCIATINGLY slow.  I think I was creeping along at around 12 mph, mostly stop and go. I was watching my estimated range slowly climbing up to ridiculous numbers. First over 200 miles, and eventually over 300 miles. The numbers continued to slowly tick upwards and suddenly, before it could hit 400, it rolled around back to ONE!  The numbers started slowly climbing again and when it hit 27, suddenly it read 357!  Eventually traffic opened up and I was able to cruise at a reasonable rate and the estimated mileage sank down to about 75 with 56% battery left when I got home.
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Re: Range oddity
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2026, 11:42:59 PM »

Here's one I never saw before. I was riding my 2020 SR/F home from Brooklyn and traffic on the Long Island Expressway was EXCRUCIATINGLY slow.  I think I was creeping along at around 12 mph, mostly stop and go. I was watching my estimated range slowly climbing up to ridiculous numbers. First over 200 miles, and eventually over 300 miles. The numbers continued to slowly tick upwards and suddenly, before it could hit 400, it rolled around back to ONE!  The numbers started slowly climbing again and when it hit 27, suddenly it read 357!  Eventually traffic opened up and I was able to cruise at a reasonable rate and the estimated mileage sank down to about 75 with 56% battery left when I got home.
Looking at "range left" is a waste of time unless the conditions (wind, hills, temps, etc. never change--which NEVER happens in reality).


I was glad to discover on my Zero DSR/X I can have the range left NOT show on the screen. It is a waste of time to look at. Just use the SOC and figure your range left from that.


-Don-  Reno, NV



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Re: Range oddity
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2026, 08:07:40 PM »

Here's one I never saw before. ………
traffic on the Long Island Expressway was EXCRUCIATINGLY slow.  I think I was creeping along at around 12 mph, mostly stop and go ……..
Looking at "range left" is a waste of time …….

It’s nice that Zero included an entertainment feature for those that have to kill time because they can’t (legally) filter  ;D



 
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Re: Range oddity
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2026, 11:36:47 PM »

Here's one I never saw before. ………
traffic on the Long Island Expressway was EXCRUCIATINGLY slow.  I think I was creeping along at around 12 mph, mostly stop and go ……..
Looking at "range left" is a waste of time …….

It’s nice that Zero included an entertainment feature for those that have to kill time because they can’t (legally) filter  ;D
IMO, the way Tesla or the Chevy Bolt does it are the best ways. The Tesla simply bases range from the SOC and displays it in miles left, making a good average range left.  The Chevy Bolt  shows three ranges, the expected average, the best and the worse possible.


To base motorcycle ranges on expecting conditions to not change is very stupid, especially in hilly areas like this.  It can say I have a hundred miles of range left if I go mostly downhill at first,  but then can only go 20 miles back uphill  to having a fully dead battery. Why look at such nonsense? Just use SOC%.


It's very handy to use in my Zero DSR/X because 1 SOC is usually about a mile of range.  I always keep "range left" to NOT display on that bike.  It's nice that I am not forced to look at such useless info.


-Don-  Auburn, CA
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Re: Range oddity
« Reply #4 on: Today at 11:31:07 AM »

I wish cars also made SOC an always visible feature(as standard) and GOM an optional. range left is such a useless value..

I know some brands are good at this, but some (looking at you BMW) hides the SOC behind other values-of-interest, so i have to make a choice on something of higher value to me than the km value they have always present..  >:(
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