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Zero Motorcycles Caps 2025 With Strong Global Growth
« on: February 08, 2026, 07:11:10 PM »

Sounds like good news to me. Now if only they'd deliver the parts I've been waiting over six weeks for...
https://thepack.news/zero-motorcycles-caps-2025-with-strong-global-growth-across-sales-dealers-and-product-lines/
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Re: Zero Motorcycles Caps 2025 With Strong Global Growth
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2026, 07:48:22 PM »

Sounds like good news to me. Now if only they'd deliver the parts I've been waiting over six weeks for...
https://thepack.news/zero-motorcycles-caps-2025-with-strong-global-growth-across-sales-dealers-and-product-lines/

Regarding the statement about increasing sales and dealers in the U.S. last year - you could have fooled me.  ???

I thought sales of electric everything were weak last year in the U.S. and while I have heard of motorcycles shops dropping the Zero brand, I can't recall of any picking up the Zero franchise recently.
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Re: Zero Motorcycles Caps 2025 With Strong Global Growth
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2026, 08:28:35 PM »

people will print whatever the advertiser want's them to print.  Statistics can be twisted to say anything you need them to say.
I call it minitabbing your data, you just plug in different formula's until one shits out the result you need then you can say, SEE it's 'scientifically proven' or 'statistics are showing' etc etc.

well let's twist the third quartile,  throw in an inverted decile here and run a hooligans hooptie doop normalicy curve on it and SEE, we are selling bikes!!

Global growth, means they opened a shop in india... just like Energica will soon show 'strong global growth'.

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Re: Zero Motorcycles Caps 2025 With Strong Global Growth
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2026, 06:04:18 AM »

A local multi-line dealer near me in Seattle just picked up a Zero franchise. The previous Seattle Zero dealer, who were alway good by me, dropped them last Summer.
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Re: Zero Motorcycles Caps 2025 With Strong Global Growth
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2026, 09:09:31 AM »

My dealer is only stocking the new little Zeros.  He had a 2023 DSRX and a couple others, but they have disappeared.
He has done well with the Starks and sells a lot of BMW's and Beta's. Some Aprilia's Guzzi's and a few Vespa's
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Re: Zero Motorcycles Caps 2025 With Strong Global Growth
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2026, 06:47:05 PM »

A local multi-line dealer near me in Seattle just picked up a Zero franchise. The previous Seattle Zero dealer, who were alway good by me, dropped them last Summer.

Same here. My previous dealer was in Manhattan and specialized in electric mobility but decided to drop the brand as the owner didn't care for the new deal from Zero. With Energica's shaky future it seems that dealership no longer exists. Fortunately for me, a more local multi-brand dealership picked up Zero but their service department is still getting up to speed. I think my 2020 SR/F is their primary training tool...
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Re: Zero Motorcycles Caps 2025 With Strong Global Growth
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2026, 08:36:16 AM »

I want them to succeed, because I want the supply chain for my SRS to exist.
That being said, that article is written in a very careful way, with percentages.
A year over year increase in sales of 80% for example, could mean they only sold 10 bikes in all of 2024 but for 2025 they sold 18.
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2026, 05:36:41 PM »

At least they're going in the right direction. I want them to succeed because there's still no replacement for my SR/F, not even from Zero.

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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2026, 08:14:38 PM »

i want any and all EV companies to succeed.  I think they are good, and it doesn't matter why really, people have their own reasons for liking or disliking things, and that's cool.  With that though the better they do overall, the better the acceptance and support for ALL things EV will be.  more car chargers means more bike chargers etc etc. better support overall for everything we want / need.

the price of solar has come down stupidly a lot, and if the dirty ass contractors would stop fucking RAPING people on the price to put the goddam shit in, more people could afford it even without the rebate they used to have.  Having panels on your house, would offset many bills for you.  Whjether you want to save the planet, cut your electric bills down, or have power in a blackout, panels on a house is an extremely good use case normally.

You can get good quality panels in bulk for 32  cents a watt now. top line in the 40's / watt.  yet they want to charge you 5 dollars a watt to install the stuff.  this is because they knew they could sell them on the 30 percent thing to people who didn't think it fully through and that meant obscene profits for them as well.    the gravy train is over, if they want to stay in business they'll have to quit eating filets and eat hamburger and sirloins once in a while.  I actually had one contractor tell me when i initially priced my setup, well everyone has to eat you know.  Right before i kicked him the hell out of the house i told him, i get that and im good with that but that doesn't mean that you have to order a prime rib every time someone else is paying for it.  He called a week later, trying to pretend nothing happened, and knocked the price down about 30 percent still trying to sell.   didn't happen.

Solar is doable, just have to shop around and try to find a contractor that's not a crook, and another trick.  have them put a small tiny system in, just enogugh to get it on the grid and signed off and you can diy / third party the rest later for a much lower price.   It's not the answer to every problem but would take a nice chunk out of many peoples transportation bills on solar .vs. gas.

A 5 kw battery with an 8 year warranty on it cost about 800 dollars now (its 48 volt, if you want to string12's together its a bit cheaper), this with say 6 -400 watt panels would give you about 10kw on a good day.  that's about 100 miles on your bike.  on a bad day, maybe 2 kw.  Doing the math, a panel can, at least in florida pay for itself in about 4 maybe 5 years. they are warrantied for 25 years.  plug that into your zero, livewire, energica, lightfighter and you got a solid system

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Re: Zero Motorcycles Caps 2025 With Strong Global Growth
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2026, 10:05:19 PM »

i want any and all EV companies to succeed.  I think they are good, and it doesn't matter why really, people have their own reasons for liking or disliking things, and that's cool.  With that though the better they do overall, the better the acceptance and support for ALL things EV will be.  more car chargers means more bike chargers etc etc. better support overall for everything we want / need.

the price of solar has come down stupidly a lot, and if the dirty ass contractors would stop fucking RAPING people on the price to put the goddam shit in, more people could afford it even without the rebate they used to have.  Having panels on your house, would offset many bills for you.  Whjether you want to save the planet, cut your electric bills down, or have power in a blackout, panels on a house is an extremely good use case normally.

You can get good quality panels in bulk for 32  cents a watt now. top line in the 40's / watt.  yet they want to charge you 5 dollars a watt to install the stuff.  this is because they knew they could sell them on the 30 percent thing to people who didn't think it fully through and that meant obscene profits for them as well.    the gravy train is over, if they want to stay in business they'll have to quit eating filets and eat hamburger and sirloins once in a while.  I actually had one contractor tell me when i initially priced my setup, well everyone has to eat you know.  Right before i kicked him the hell out of the house i told him, i get that and im good with that but that doesn't mean that you have to order a prime rib every time someone else is paying for it.  He called a week later, trying to pretend nothing happened, and knocked the price down about 30 percent still trying to sell.   didn't happen.

Solar is doable, just have to shop around and try to find a contractor that's not a crook, and another trick.  have them put a small tiny system in, just enogugh to get it on the grid and signed off and you can diy / third party the rest later for a much lower price.   It's not the answer to every problem but would take a nice chunk out of many peoples transportation bills on solar .vs. gas.

A 5 kw battery with an 8 year warranty on it cost about 800 dollars now (its 48 volt, if you want to string12's together its a bit cheaper), this with say 6 -400 watt panels would give you about 10kw on a good day.  that's about 100 miles on your bike.  on a bad day, maybe 2 kw.  Doing the math, a panel can, at least in florida pay for itself in about 4 maybe 5 years. they are warrantied for 25 years.  plug that into your zero, livewire, energica, lightfighter and you got a solid system

aaron

As I was reading thru your post I kept thinking, "He must live in Florida if that's his experience with contractors..."

Then I got to the bottom.  LOL!!
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Re: Zero Motorcycles Caps 2025 With Strong Global Growth
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2026, 04:58:00 AM »

unfortunately the contractors are real slimy down here with this solar shit and there is this ....scam is the only way i can describe it, where they sell you a 'backup system' that only is good for 115 volts, they put a few lights, a fan, maybe a small window ac on it and your fridge circuit.  then charge you 30 to 40k for the fucking panels inverter and battery pack.   they own the electricity too, it's sold back, they some how get the credits, bla bla.   im thinking it's another part of the scam where they claim the green credits they are selling to companies that need them, not sure how it works, and don't want to know, totally not interested.   You are not allowed to make any other adjustments either.   had a friend who i tried desperately to talk out of getting one, but keith, once his mind is made up, that's it, its a done deal.  has 8k of panels on his house and a 5kw battery, wtf even why?  he wanted to put additional storage on it so it'd last longer during outages.. they wanted to charge him almost 10 grand to slap on another 5k battery.   i finally talked him into getting a 10k battery with no questions asked 8 year warranty, 2500 dollars.  outback 8kw inverter, ehh 3600 at the time. slap that in, independently, will run entire fkn house, they'll never see it.  double the capacity whole house covered now for about 60 percent of the cost.

Another thing they try is they have high pressure sleaze bag salesmen who show up and really push hard for the sale on the spot,  you need to get it now or this 'super duper deal' goes away, it's the last day of this special. type of bullshit.   then they hook you up with a loan shark lender who will finance the entire thing interest free for 4 years, no payments needed, just pay as you can. bla bla. then they creamed it with the 30 percent tax rebate and made it look like it was all free when it was said and done.   the problem is loanshark lender cooked a 9 to 12 origination fee into that overall cost, so you got fkd for 4 grand right there, and if you did not have the thing entirely paid off at the end of the term, ALL the withheld interest comes screaming back on, so now you got 16 to 21 percent interest for 4 years, slam, suddenly your bill is another 14 grand.  it was horrible what they did to people.   Almost as bad as those dirty sob's crawling around with their 6 thousand dollar 'whole house water treatment' systems, that you can buy and install yourself for about 600 dollars.

unfortunately florida was not the only place with vulture contractors.  look at california, how many gigawatts of power systems were sold with micro inverters and zero backup, the moment your grid hiccups it shuts down.  totally useless in an outage.  why would you want to spend that kind of money on a system that won't backup when the power is off?    California also had some scam deal where the state was paying the manufacturers as well  x per unit for 'green shit' as well, so them and the installers got kickbacks on those systems too.  Everyone got rich, the end buyer got screwed.

while we are at it, sadly,  energica was heavily involved in a fucking dope deal of that nature with cali as well, which is also what lead to a lot of their financial difficulties, when the state backed out of paying those people the green money they promised they were going to.

look, i am very pro solar, not to save the planet, global warming is more bullshit to guilt the stupid into giving up billions to the corrupt. it makes sense in a lot of areas, but is not an answer all.  it's also rotten to the core with cancer of theft and corruption....just like our politicians around the planet.  All that is designed for them to get rich off of you.   As a consumer you get a cock to sit on unlubricated, as a player now, installer, seller, you got rich.

ironically, speaking of corruption... the first diesel engine ran off peanut oil, but there was this new thing... oil from the ground.... the rest is history.

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Re: Zero Motorcycles Caps 2025 With Strong Global Growth
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2026, 10:32:27 AM »

Florida homeowners, are you ready to go solar?
STFU
SKIP
Their product was financing. The solar install was  a vector to do it. Their carrot was the government incentive that gets consumed in the financing.
Florida man here. I know two people already who had to remove it from their roof because of massive leaking, or insurance problems.
Because the roof is an ideal place for a thing you have to routinely clean.🙄
Someday I will set up my own system, but too busy now.
I have the PERFECT place for it... a flat roof over a lanai adjacent to my pool, that is accessible from the second story by a door from one of the bedrooms.
I use about 12kw daily with my SRS so that might fit together nicely.
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« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2026, 09:03:27 PM »

flat roof, even then tilt the thing about 15 degrees, it's a middle spot to catch the sun all times of the year but more importantly let the water drain off, otherwise it pools and when it dries, the pollen etc cakes and hardens onto the panels really dropping their efficiency.
if you want battery backup, go that route, if you are in north florida i can get you a good deal on new lith batteries,  i say north fl because we could possibly meet up or you could go get .vs. shipping which kills the 'deal'.   otherwise something like the enphase inverter makes it a quick simple install and forget about it item.

ive been doing solar for well shit. 40 years now so have learned a thing or two over that time.

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« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2026, 03:15:18 AM »

Hey thanks! Maybe someday I can learn a few things from your experience before I start. I'm years off from that though... my last big project was replacing all the windows in the house, every one, one at a time, on my off days. Its a decent size two story house. Took three years to finish. Now all the paint for the exterior cladding repair and painting, and tools for that stuff are still sitting in one of the spare rooms where I left it all last spring. My next project. Stalled from a year ago. I'm just super busy. I'm in Longwood, central Florida. 
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« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2026, 08:25:50 PM »

flat roof, even then tilt the thing about 15 degrees, it's a middle spot to catch the sun all times of the year but more importantly let the water drain off, otherwise it pools and when it dries, the pollen etc cakes and hardens onto the panels really dropping their efficiency.
if you want battery backup, go that route, if you are in north florida i can get you a good deal on new lith batteries,  i say north fl because we could possibly meet up or you could go get .vs. shipping which kills the 'deal'.   otherwise something like the enphase inverter makes it a quick simple install and forget about it item.

ive been doing solar for well shit. 40 years now so have learned a thing or two over that time.

Aaron

Good rant up there man, I hear ya.

Every time those solar salespeople hit me up either at my front door or in Home Depot my default reply is:

"Unless the installer is going to mount every individual panel at 184 degrees south and 25.6 degrees off horizontal, we're done here." 

Then they stare at me like I've got a dick on my forehead.   ;D 8)
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