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[Specter]

in the us there are more tesla chargers than others, and they always are working, half the times the other chargers have issues or the bike don't want to talk to it to start the charge.  The power company has chargers that work very well but some of the other brands are buggy and i don't see any sort of energica support coming anytime soon, if ever.

i get it, you don't personally like Tesla for whatever reasons, but if you are stranded, are you going to walk or pay for a tow, etc just because you don't like the guy or are you going to swallow your pride a little bit and charge on one of his stations? 

aaron

[SBK74]

Which Dutch shop is that?

https://www.motorvandetoekomst.nl/

Website is in Dutch.

[T.S. Zarathustra]

https://www.motorvandetoekomst.nl/

Website is in Dutch.

Dank u wel, geen problem.

[PWM]

Mark is stuck in France looking up fault codes to understand why his Experia won't run but a few feet once initiated...

He's brutally killing the weakest sister of the cell bunch...weak from day one once it left the factory...every pack has one weak cell (actually 2P cells)...and persistent attempts to invoke running is making it worse...actually, the Energica safeguards are working, so hopefully good margin exists.

Not sure this is the right bike for Mark as it needs to be balanced on AC and that in itself will take days of effort to bring back before hitting Africa.  Using the engineering screen to quantify the unbalanced state is the right next thing to do and as such SB monitored until balance is achieved...all other cells will be discharged and charged repeatedly until the weak one comes back up...sucks to be Mark at this time.

[Specter]

he needs to do this asap,  i told him already eventually the unbalance will in essence, shut down his bike, and he can only re balance it on ac.
once it gets to 100 mv he'll get the urgent nag screen, soon after, hell breaks loose.
get a timer and he can walk it up, you need an hourly restart to 'force ' it to do the rebalance, because otherwise the charge shuts down after an hour of idle sitting, but if you cycle power, it forces a reset/ recharge attempt, so walks it up slowly.

something like this will make that possible.  this is not for regular use, only when your balance gets so bad it starts giving you errors.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/115358807623

Aaron

Edit pwm, this is a perfect bike for him, the ac charger takes pretty much any voltage you find around the globe, just get a pigtail to mod the plug to whatever socket is where you are at.  it will easily fit in one of his bags / boxes.  plug it in at ANY hotel or outlet containing place he passes.

[PWM]

..all other cells will be discharged and charged repeatedly until the weak one comes back up...sucks to be Mark at this time.

Correction...the weak cell will be discharged and charged repeatedly until the pack is balanced...not a big issue when the voltage disparity is low...sucks to be Mark at this time but maybe not...I hope he documents the battery SOC when balance begins...this is a critical number that determines overall battery pack health.

[DonTom]

In Europe they standardized the plugs so it's all CCS Mennekes. There is no need for adapters.

That's what they are trying to do here with the NACS (Tesla). I have already seen many CCS chargers with a Tesla (NACS) plug.


-Don-  Bakersfield, CA (coming back from a 2-month RV trip with my Zero DS).

[princec]

Hm they don't seem to be the easiest of bikes to live with...

Cas

[MVetter]

That's what they are trying to do here with the NACS (Tesla). I have already seen many CCS chargers with a Tesla (NACS) plug.


-Don-  Bakersfield, CA (coming back from a 2-month RV trip with my Zero DS).

I don't know how you don't see this but it's LITERALLY THE OPPOSITE of what they did.

Europe: Let's set a standard that the private sector will have to obey so all the plugs are the same

US: Let's let the private sector set a standard that we will force the users to obey and charge whatever we want to various vendors at our discrimination

[Specter]

Morgan, isn't that the way it always is though, then they have their turf wars, and make pretend WE the customer have a choice, then they finally agree on a fixed method to fuck us all?

i  mean look at the early days of modems,  you had k flex, X2, pick one,   vhs, beta... pick one...apple android,  pick one....

ccs1 the i guess you could call it quasi us standard - ish  with chademo... then Tesla says, im gonna make it a bit better, call it nacs, but let you buy an adapter so those who didn't buy my product,.....can still use my other product....
look at all the different fuckin shapes and sizes of usb holes..... it never ends.

Aaron

[Grauteufel]

Ooo, I have something for this

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/standards.png

[DonTom]

Ooo, I have something for this

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/standards.png

That would be funny if it were not true.

[jotjotde]

Hm they don't seem to be the easiest of bikes to live with...

Cas

Well, my Zero was also nothing to write home about. That crap wouldn't even have got me to the Netherlands.

Long distance travelling with an Energica was proven already a long time ago. Go and google 'Ali Abdo Energica'.

A guy without deeper understanding how the bike (and charging infrastructure) works undertaking a long distance travel with a bike he obviously didn't test beforehand is not very smart.
But apparently smart doesn't get you clicks.

[mdjak1]

he needs to do this asap,  i told him already eventually the unbalance will in essence, shut down his bike, and he can only re balance it on ac.
once it gets to 100 mv he'll get the urgent nag screen, soon after, hell breaks loose.

So if 100 mv is bad then his 500 mv difference must a a disaster!   See screen at 9:39.

[Grauteufel]

Would anyone really be surprised? Runs it down to zero, probably a dozen back to back dcfc sessions and then leaves it out in freezing weather. It’s almost as if a YouTuber deliberately manufactured a dramatic situation. Quelle surprise. Could have ac charged over any of the nights the series ran so far. Considering the multiple electrics he’s run, I am certain he’s aware of how to take advantage of overnight charging. Why can’t “content” creators be nice and genuine, like newzeroland.