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Re: Michelin Road 6 on the SS9 – A Noticeable Upgrade
« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2025, 10:14:00 PM »

I'm riding with Dunlop Roadsmart 3 on the Experia and Road 5 on my SS9. They feel about the same and for the ~$120 difference, I'll happily stick with the Roadsmart series. My experia is getting somewhat close to needing a tire change, and it will probably be getting the Roadsmart 4 for the small difference in price. A long while back I remember doing an extensive comparison between the all weather tires between all the brands and that's what I ended up at.
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Re: Michelin Road 6 on the SS9 – A Noticeable Upgrade
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2025, 01:07:42 AM »

I'm riding with Dunlop Roadsmart 3 on the Experia and Road 5 on my SS9. They feel about the same and for the ~$120 difference, I'll happily stick with the Roadsmart series. My experia is getting somewhat close to needing a tire change, and it will probably be getting the Roadsmart 4 for the small difference in price. A long while back I remember doing an extensive comparison between the all weather tires between all the brands and that's what I ended up at.

I had Roadsmart 4's on my BMW S1000XR, the rear was good but I didn't like the front, it cupped badly after ~3000km. I've been running Bridgestone S23's on my Experia for the last 7-8000km....they are very good.... but were done by 7k km, very soft and very good in the twisty stuff.

I've just fitted a set of Continental Road Attack 3's to the Experia...which I find to be excellent "all round" tyres. I now do a lot of straight line commuting to work, ~110km a day, so the sportier tyres are a bit of a waste for my use.

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Re: Michelin Road 6 on the SS9 – A Noticeable Upgrade
« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2025, 09:15:36 PM »

I have 4000 miles on a set of T32r GT's on my Experia.  Maybe 1/3 worn, still pretty round.  I got 7500 on the stock tires.  I think these will well outdo the originals.  They feel great and work for my commuting. 

https://www.bridgestonemotorcycletires.com/en-us/product-results/battlax-sport-touring-t32#
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Re: Michelin Road 6 on the SS9 – A Noticeable Upgrade
« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2025, 02:04:13 AM »

I have 4000 miles on a set of T32r GT's on my Experia.  Maybe 1/3 worn, still pretty round.  I got 7500 on the stock tires.  I think these will well outdo the originals.  They feel great and work for my commuting. 

https://www.bridgestonemotorcycletires.com/en-us/product-results/battlax-sport-touring-t32#

I found the original Pirelli Scorpion II's were horrible, very hard and I never trusted them in faster higher lean angle corners, I never did like them and had 20mm "chicken strips"...took them off after just 2500km, they were still like new....As soon as I fitted the Bridgestone S23's I was able to get right to the edge of the tyre without the ar$e puckering moments around corners. ;)

The Experia handles extremely well considering it's size and 260kg weight...it's no proper sport bike but for an upright, heavy machine, it's pretty good IMHO.

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Re: Michelin Road 6 on the SS9 – A Noticeable Upgrade
« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2025, 04:23:32 AM »

a am half tempted one day to take my experia to the track one day, if i ever get it back, just to see how it would handle.  with it's lower cog itd bob more like a top id think. agreed it's really nice handling on the road but how about on tight corners, thatd be interesting to see, would have to take the bags off tho so you are not dragging them into corners.

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Re: Michelin Road 6 on the SS9 – A Noticeable Upgrade
« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2025, 06:34:52 AM »

Yeah, I wish the Experia had a 21" front wheel like my '81 g/s.  I always felt I could ride that as fast as I possibly could with confidence.
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Re: Michelin Road 6 on the SS9 – A Noticeable Upgrade
« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2025, 09:03:46 AM »

a am half tempted one day to take my experia to the track one day, if i ever get it back, just to see how it would handle.  with it's lower cog itd bob more like a top id think. agreed it's really nice handling on the road but how about on tight corners, thatd be interesting to see, would have to take the bags off tho so you are not dragging them into corners. aaron

Aaron....What tyres would you have on it for a track day..?? The Pirelli Scorpion II's are not really that sort of tyre.

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Re: Michelin Road 6 on the SS9 – A Noticeable Upgrade
« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2025, 09:50:07 AM »

smithy, good question.  ill probably stick some conti road attack 2's on it.
i choose those for my other bikes because they work well on the road, and on the track you CAN run them w/o warmers on, (not slicks obviously) with a warmup lap and a half or so if needed.  some days like winter it's cold as shit or rainy days when there is a bit of water, not enough for rain tires but enough to make warmers about useless after a lap, they run really good too.  granted you tone way back during rainy days, unless you have rain tires of, but still they handle well in all weather really.

yah those pirelli's that come with them, are pretty garbagy imo.  ive had nothing but grief with those tires.  i see why they went with pirelli, the whole italian thing, but there are much better tires out there.  Especially for jennings fl, that track just destroy's pirelli's, they just are not made for it.

IF i run it on the track, that'll be an interesting run for sure as it absolutely does handle much different.  i callit my weeble bike, it  wobbles but hopefdully doesn't fall down !! but we do know better.   :D   IF i did give it a romp id probably go a lot easier on it than the race bike and not ride it like i stole it, the brakes / suspension just is not up for that kind of riding, plus there are no more parts left for it if i do lay her down, no fixing on her.

now that im talking on it, yah it'd be real interesting to see how it does handle on a corner.

it's not the same world ,but there is a guy who mx'd his out totally, i wonder what he found out on that?  speaking od mx, that kid Aiden, who died the other day, that's so sad.

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Re: Michelin Road 6 on the SS9 – A Noticeable Upgrade
« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2025, 10:11:18 AM »

Speaking from a little experience, the pegs and front suspension are the limiting factor on the track. There's a whole world of dive under braking, with the pegs limiting the lean angle well before tyres reach their edge
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Re: Michelin Road 6 on the SS9 – A Noticeable Upgrade
« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2025, 11:32:06 AM »

Wow, you really manged to get the pegs sliding on the ground?  :o :o :o
I never got that far on the track and still nearly pi**ed my pants. Still, the Pirelli DR3 showed wear up to the edge. IDK if they are good when forced more.
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Re: Michelin Road 6 on the SS9 – A Noticeable Upgrade
« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2025, 11:45:20 AM »

I also believe that the centre stand on the CE04 is the limiting lean factor with Michelin Road 4s.. Once you've had a stack with neither bike nor rider damaged you start to feel immortal (in a controlled environment, I would never push that hard on the road).

Both corner pretty spectacularly well considering they were never anticipated to be pushed hard, with both just pushing wide predictably rather than sliding out
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Re: Michelin Road 6 on the SS9 – A Noticeable Upgrade
« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2025, 09:18:07 PM »

Took the experia to a tight technical track, absolutely roasted my pirelli supercorsas in about 2 days of b-group pace and scraped the pegs a few times.
These heavy bikes with lots of torque are death to soft tires when ridden in anger. 

Can't imagine the EVA/EGO/SS9 would be any nicer to tires  ;D



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Re: Michelin Road 6 on the SS9 – A Noticeable Upgrade
« Reply #27 on: July 03, 2025, 12:02:27 AM »

@Silentpea
no, the big bikes are NOT friendly at all to softer tires.  i'll roast my rear in  about 2 days, front on the 3rd day on the track.
front tire it's not the threads but the sides you sacrifice, you'll have the huge canyon with the threads showing in the gully in extreme cases.  yah a face plant waiting to happen.

Attached is a picture of a tire that  i ran a bit longer than i should have, but to give you an example of front tire wear.  notice the symmetry side to side is gone, there is a huge ledge there and like a canyon you can rest your finger in, the tread looks pretty good still !!  besides for a few track boogers i picked up it looks pretty good still right?  nope, this tire will face plant you if you push it into a turn, there's no more contact area left, hence the carve out there, so traction surface is severely compromised, you dive in and it'll slide right out.  These are conti attack 2's  this i believe will be a medium tire, they ran out of the softer ones.  As by design though, this tire was giving me plenty of warning that it was no longer good, the conti's are very good at that, they'll start chirping you or giving you 'wiggles' to let you know 'hey, doofus, that's ENOUGH', before they let out on you, unless you just totally push it beyond of course.

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Re: Michelin Road 6 on the SS9 – A Noticeable Upgrade
« Reply #28 on: July 03, 2025, 04:26:39 AM »

That is one f&%#ed tyre... are those the steel bands showing through on the edge?

Thats probably the advantage of street tyres on the track, while you don't have as much ultimate grip, they provide a hell of a lot of warning before they actually let go
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Re: Michelin Road 6 on the SS9 – A Noticeable Upgrade
« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2025, 11:09:29 AM »

I had the Pirelli Diablo Rosso III on my Energica SS9+RS replaced with Michelin Road 6 tires. The result was a very pleasant surprise
Which tire do you prefer on the SS9 or the Ribelle?
Michelin's tire game is on point, although you pay a premium. They do a great job of balancing dry grip without sacrificing wet weather performance. I just realized all my vehicles are currently fitted with them:
Pilot sport 4s fitted to my Fiat 124, EGO runs Power cup 2's, F800gs has Anakee Roads even my mountain bike has wild-am2 rubber.

Took the experia to a tight technical track, absolutely roasted my pirelli supercorsas in about 2 days of b-group pace and scraped the pegs a few times.
These heavy bikes with lots of torque are death to soft tires when ridden in anger. 
You 100% got your moneys worth from that tire! How did the Experia perform at the track? Photo of the rear?
It looks like your front tire might be getting a bit hot causing some tearing. You might want to bump the pressure 1-2 psi to see if that cleans up the wear. What are your cold/hot pressures?

I do not have a ton of experience with road tires at the track but I know they are designed to come up to temp quickly and work at a wider temp range vs slicks. However they do have a very short lifespan when being run above that temp range.

Don't have any photos of a front tire but here is a Dunlop R5 slick rear (26 psi hot) after 10 A+ pace laps (1:33) at Laguna.



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