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Dryer667

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Ugh, knocked over!
« on: June 23, 2025, 07:47:09 AM »

After a wonderful 1000mi Appalachian mountain trip with the SS9 this weekend I returned to my bike at a public fast charger to see it knocked over onto it's right side. No idea if it was accidental, intentional or what as no one else was there when I returned and it was not a super public location. Because it was charging, the seat was up and the support bracket for it was bent, the right rearset bent, and handlebar tweaked. Some rash on the outer fairing but the rear spools and EONE fork sliders helped most of the rest.

I've reached out to Stefano and Chris about any replacement parts but I thought I would also check here if anyone has any of the above they wouldn't mind parting with. Do let me know if so, thanks!
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Re: Ugh, knocked over!
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2025, 08:55:50 AM »

you mean you did NOT bust off the front brake handle???
wow, miracles happen every day!

im sorry to hear someone asshole knocked your bike over like that, did someone help you pick it back up?

the seat should be able to be bent back in shape and be ok.  The scuffs on the fairings, what i found that worked well with my ribelle is hitting them with a sharpie.  YOU will see the scuffs of course, but most other people won't really notice.

did you bend the handlebars? or just shift them a bit and they just need a re adjusting?

ALL of that stuff is not energica specific, and any shop should be able to fix it for you if you can't get it to energica or an energica dealer.  in other words, any shop can fix it, it's not like it's something that only energica can do.

please let us know how it turns out but sadly, i don't think there are too many parts left around.  im in the same jam with my experia looking for parts.

aaron
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Re: Ugh, knocked over!
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2025, 05:15:45 PM »

Correct, somehow I did not. I think the rise of the SS9 bars helped there.

Somehow rage and panic fueled my ability to get it back but holy sh*t it was heavy and awkward. In fact, I tore a muscle in my forearm getting it up, apparently.

You can see stress marks on the bars near the handlebar mount, and they are just so slightly tweaked.

Are there aftermarket rearsets for energicas? The biggest thing I am worried about is that the rearset mount on the frame is bent in addition to the rearset itself.

Of course this happens right after I pick up OZ wheels and a few other things. Ill keep you all posted.

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Re: Ugh, knocked over!
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2025, 05:21:16 PM »

So sorry to hear about your experience! 

Really sorry to hear you injured yourself lifting the bike.

« Last Edit: June 23, 2025, 05:30:38 PM by Pard »
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Re: Ugh, knocked over!
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2025, 08:32:16 PM »

Hope you get all the stuff you need.  That's a terrible thing to find.  I'd be so mad.  As you unfortunately experienced, we need to be careful lifting these heavy bikes.  I learned a very hard lesson last June.  I picked up my experia after a very low speed tip over (my foot slipped), I tore my bicep tendon, and had surgery to repair it, putting me out for 5 months.
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Re: Ugh, knocked over!
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2025, 08:59:35 PM »

Hope you get all the stuff you need.  That's a terrible thing to find.  I'd be so mad.  As you unfortunately experienced, we need to be careful lifting these heavy bikes.  I learned a very hard lesson last June.  I picked up my experia after a very low speed tip over (my foot slipped), I tore my bicep tendon, and had surgery to repair it, putting me out for 5 months.

Oh Man!  We should be trained by the dealership upon purchase!

Makes me think about putting those kind of wide bars on the enrgica to keep it from ever being flat on the ground.

« Last Edit: June 23, 2025, 09:03:49 PM by Pard »
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Re: Ugh, knocked over!
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2025, 11:12:41 PM »

Thanks all. One of the worst parts of the lift was because the bike was knocked towards the charger so there was so little space for me left to lift as described in the video. I  basically had to try to spin it away from the charger before lifting. The sliders helped quite a bit for this. The contact points were the rear spool/slider, right rearset, handlebar end and brief touches to the fairing and front slider.
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Re: Ugh, knocked over!
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2025, 12:30:58 AM »

Most of those video's how to pick up big bikes for little women are bullshit.
most those bikes have big ass bags on them so are already half the way up anyways, they are leaning at like a 30 to 40 degree up angle to begin with NOT sprawled spread eagle like your bike is going to end up.  now couple that with the bikes shape.  it's plastic and it's got a lot of smooth edges on it, there really isn't a very good place to grab hold to really heft this thing up by, you really are challenged to get a good grip.  if you are a short shit like me, you are lacking in that leverage too!!

These Energica's are heavy sob's period!!  and when they do go over, are laying unfortunately, mostly flat ass on the ground.  it's a full fkn 90 to get it back up, and these top heavy bastards will work every fiber of muscle you have trying to get them up!!

unless you lift weights, and are pretty good at it, i must strongly recommend that you get help, you will NOT get it by yourself, and if you do, you run an extreme risk of tearing your shit up.  I have a torn bicep again right now, had it fixed once before.  it's a real shitty operation.  it hurts like hell, you are down for 12 weeks minimum just to get back to somewhat normal, for normal people riding a bike in a normal way.  if you race, or do track days, you are probably looking at 6 to 8 months to get the strength and flexibility back in it to do what you once did... again.  my first arm operation it took me a better part of a year to be able to one arm carry 100 lbs up a ladder again, contrary to the doctor saying 'youll be back in 12 weeks'  ... that's bs.

please take this seriously, you WILL rip muscles real easy in your arm and you don't get much warning that it's going, for you to stop doing what you are doing, it's more like a  pop.  uh oh did i just ???  oh no.  long recovery too, and not being able to use that arm or hand for all those weeks,.. it sucks... if it's youe dominant arm / hand... even worse.     every day little things you do, you don't even think about, until you can't anymore, or it's extremely difficult....  holding a glass,  opening a bottle... hell... wiping your ass..... you get the idea, you do NOT want to have this surgery if you can avoid it.  get help with the bike.  most people are sympathetic and will lend a hand if you ask.

aaron
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Re: Ugh, knocked over!
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2025, 01:33:38 AM »

Energica's are actually really easy to pick back up!
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Re: Ugh, knocked over!
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2025, 01:59:34 AM »

Energica's are actually really easy to pick back up!

Explain...
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Re: Ugh, knocked over!
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2025, 02:39:53 AM »

Energica's are actually really easy to pick back up!

Explain...

Despite the weight, the way it's distributed puts it closer to the fulcrum (the bottoms of the wheels) than general which reduces the moment you're working against when you lift the bike. My Ribelle (260kg) has been really easy to pick up compared to my VFR800 (240kg) or my old FZS600 (220kg)
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Re: Ugh, knocked over!
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2025, 03:16:33 AM »

could you explain how exactly you pick it up, how you grab, it how you position your body and heft it.
facing it or back to it, one long sweep or a few motions etc.

thank you
Aaron

ps i find that if i can get a knee or something under it and then start forcing it that way i get a little more leeway but the first say 6 inches or so, just getting it started, yah, no go for me.

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Re: Ugh, knocked over!
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2025, 04:10:20 AM »

I just squat facing it with one hand on the bar and one in the little underseat grove for pillions to hold onto and basicly deadlift it. Once it rocks onto the wheels and they become the fulcrum it's a straightforward lift. If it's resting on its side wheels up then whatever bit it's resting on is your fulcrum and anything beyond that is actually acting as a counterweight that aids your lift, then once you get it on the wheels you are lifting the whole thing but you have maximum leverage. I've not had mine rest in any position where getting it to that point was hard but if you can't then yeah it's going to be a bastard.
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Re: Ugh, knocked over!
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2025, 07:26:07 AM »

I’ve had to pick my SS9 up twice. The first time both me and my dad together coudln’t budge it an inch, until I watched one of those “tiny woman picks up big bike” videos and understood where I was going wrong. The trick is to put your ass on the side of the saddle (the side that’s pointed up) with all of your weight on it. Just get a good grip on the bar and passenger grab handles and stand straight up (absolutely vertical, no backward or diagonal motion at all) like you’re getting out of a chair. The bike will come up like magic. Once it’s up past a certain point, that’s when you can start walking it backward, not before.

When I tried to avoid putting my body weight on the bike and tried to back into the lifting motion like most of us probably do, I couldn’t even budge it a milimeter. I might as well have been trying to bench press a Buick.
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Re: Ugh, knocked over!
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2025, 09:26:41 AM »

May this rash of tip-overs end soon.

I agree 100% with Aaron, having just went through trying to pick up my Experia.  I have had to pick up other motorcycles a number of times, and that with the education of BMW's Offroad Riding School making the task straightforward if not easy.  Uphill, downhill, bags, no bags, crash bars or not - success.  After a futile 10 minutes, I went and got help.

The Experia weight distribution is up higher, and with the Givi Bags (and no crash bars), the front end was naturally tipped downward, the seat therefore near the ground, making it impossible for me to get my butt in the right position on the seat to start the backward lift.  Lifting by the handlebar was equally futile.

By the way, "right now there are no spare fairings for the Experia", according to Cali.  No touch-up paint either.  Speaking of touch-up paint, early on, I asked Energica for the paint formula for Bormio Ice, as I thought it would look great to have the bags be the same silver color.  My local paint supplier told me that one component of the formula was not available in the US, so a match was impossible.  I might try again...it's only a little scratch, but pretty visible.

My brake lever is on its way.  It is the same Brembo unit/lever as on the Duc 1098, according to Cali.  As for the "guaranteed Aprilia" turn signals, well the finest print I didn't read until now says C   H   I   N  A.  All in all, an ok copy from 5' away, but lots of trimming of injection mold flash, and slightly different design.  The good part is that with a little of the aforementioned trimming, I was able to use all the non-broken original parts (like the better quality sockets and bulbs) with the Chinese parts. +/- $20 got me two.  Just be mindful of where the drain holes are - the left and right are not substitutable.

Ride safe,
Commodore
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