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DonTom

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Re: No DCFC!
« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2025, 10:16:19 AM »

In case anybody is interested, here is the thingy that holds the bike by the front wheel:





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Re: No DCFC!
« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2025, 03:45:37 PM »

basement of 21,5kWh battery (this is 2022 or 2023 model)
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Re: No DCFC!
« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2025, 10:08:29 PM »

Eaton Bussman 100 Amp fuse. Easy to replace, nice! Haha
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Re: No DCFC!
« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2025, 11:03:53 PM »

Eaton Bussman 100 Amp fuse. Easy to replace, nice! Haha
But not in the case of my 75-amp fuse. A very big hassle, from what I understand so far.


Hopefully that is not the problem. But I should find out in the next couple of days.





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Re: No DCFC!
« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2025, 03:25:19 AM »

Now that I have the rear wheel off the bike and carefully checked it, I can now see why the tire cannot be plugged. It is not a hole, but a tear, which makes sense, since whatever I ran over, stayed on the road. Tears cannot be plugged.


Tire, with only a few hundred miles on it, will be replaced with a new one, most likely tomorrow. These days just about every motorcycle repair place is closed today, Monday.


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Re: No DCFC!
« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2025, 04:35:21 AM »

I was in the same area on Saturday. The weekend (5/30 to 6/1) was the BARF Rally (Bay Area Riders Forum) in Jackson CA. I rode on Saturday from Jackson to Walker for some Mountain View BBQ. Highway 88 and 89 to 395. I used those EV Range Chargers at the Walker Country Store. Funny thing was my phone did a software update when I got to the charger. I couldnt use the app so I had to initiate it with a credit card like a luddite with no phone. Lol. It worked just fine.

Funny thing, I also got a flat. On 89 a few miles from Markleeville. Mine was a regular puncture so I plugged it and carried on without issue. I was on the lookout for another EV bike since I was out and about in your stomping grounds.
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Re: No DCFC!
« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2025, 05:45:15 AM »

I was in the same area on Saturday. The weekend (5/30 to 6/1) was the BARF Rally (Bay Area Riders Forum) in Jackson CA. I rode on Saturday from Jackson to Walker for some Mountain View BBQ. Highway 88 and 89 to 395. I used those EV Range Chargers at the Walker Country Store. Funny thing was my phone did a software update when I got to the charger. I couldnt use the app so I had to initiate it with a credit card like a luddite with no phone. Lol. It worked just fine.

Funny thing, I also got a flat. On 89 a few miles from Markleeville. Mine was a regular puncture so I plugged it and carried on without issue. I was on the lookout for another EV bike since I was out and about in your stomping grounds.
The OP was at 0200 hrs on Saturday, which means all of this happened to me on Friday, June 30.


I used the Tesla Magic Doc in Jackson on 20, Aug 2024, and left a photo of my bike there.


With EV range, a real computer can be used, I carry a small laptop as well as my Smartphone. But AFAIK, EV-Ranges does not have RFID cards which I normally use with other charge stations.

EV-Range says their logs never supplied any power to my bike any of the times I tried. If that is true, it is not possible for the fuse to blow.


Before Coleville, I stopped the AutoCharge+ from the EV-GO charger in Garnerville. I stopped it from the bike's mode switch at 85% SOC. I wonder if a spike is possible when the charger is stopped.


I also charged up a bit more in Alpine Village, but that is an AC charge (Chargepoint J-plug).


Next was a ride down Monitor Pass and to Coleville where I have yet to get a successful charge. I also tried to charge there (unsuccessful) with my Experia on 25, May 2024, but I think those chargers were changed out since then. The Coleville chargers look very new and not from a company that EV-Range normally use at other charge stations.


Anyway, if my problem proves to be the piece of black plastic that was stuck in my Charge Port, I will take a ride to Coleville again, making sure I have enough juice to get back to Garnerville.


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Re: No DCFC!
« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2025, 09:12:05 PM »

 @DonTom You're also on BARF, right?

Any interest in the Hawthorne Rally in September?

The hotel we stay at has regular outlets outside that they let you plug into overnight. I think I even checked in on Plugshare there.
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Re: No DCFC!
« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2025, 09:39:31 PM »

@DonTom You're also on BARF, right?

Any interest in the Hawthorne Rally in September?

The hotel we stay at has regular outlets outside that they let you plug into overnight. I think I even checked in on Plugshare there.
Yes, you did on 24, September 2024 at the Travelodge.  I checked in at the rest stop there with my Experia when the DCFC was working, also after using the J-1772 @ 3KW, then on to Luning where I got a DCFC.


I will now check the info. on BARF.


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Re: No DCFC!
« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2025, 11:39:58 PM »

@DonTom You're also on BARF, right?

Any interest in the Hawthorne Rally in September?

The hotel we stay at has regular outlets outside that they let you plug into overnight. I think I even checked in on Plugshare there.
What are the dates?


What I think I will do is take my RV to the Whisky Flats RV park in Hawthorne, and then ride my Zero DS over to the motel you guys are staying at. I always take my Zero DS on my motorhome trips. From there, I will probably head to Flagstaff, AZ, which is usually nice during that time of year.


In other news, I will now head out to pick up my new mounted tire and get it installed on the bike and head for a DCFC and see what happens.


The tire had less than a thousand miles on it, the shop says new tires pick up more stuff from the road, so they see this happen with newer tires a lot. However, whatever I hit (it was dark, and I didn't see it) would have torn up any tire. It did not leave anything in the tire, as it felt like I ran over a board or whatever.


Tire was just under $300.00, mounted.


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Re: No DCFC!
« Reply #25 on: June 04, 2025, 12:29:12 AM »

September 5 - 7. I'm going to miss this years Hawthorne Rally as me and a buddy are riding a loop through Canada to check Lolo Pass off the bucket rides list. I will be at the other three though. Me and my 30,000 mile Experia. :)

https://bayarearidersforum.com/forums/threads/barf-rallys-2025-reservations-open.562674/
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Re: No DCFC!
« Reply #26 on: June 04, 2025, 06:22:11 AM »

i got the new tire mounted and took a ride to the local EV-GO DCFC charge station here in Reno.


Bad news. Still tries to charge at 0.0 watts.


Bike can still be used with the 3.3 KW AC input charger, so the bike is still useful for some things.


Now I need to decide what to do, perhaps nothing and leave it as is, but I need to first ask a few questions for me to make the decision:


Is the shop in SSF still open these days?


Can I fix the thing myself? Any special tools needed? Has anybody here replaced the fuse in the 2020 SS9- or similar bike?


If so, how much time does it take? Can it be a one-man job?


And if I do fix it myself, should I replace the 75-amp fuse with a 100-amp?


EV-Range says they never put a drop of power into my bike, from looking at their logs, in Coleville, CA. Of course, a 75-amp fuse cannot blow with no power to it.


The DCFC before this was an EV-GO in Garnerville, NV. That charge went perfect, from what I could tell, but I stopped the charge from the bike at 85% SOC.  Could there have been a spike when the power was shut down?


I am just trying to figure out what happened. Any other possibilities?


-Don-  Reno, NV



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Re: No DCFC!
« Reply #27 on: June 04, 2025, 07:09:58 AM »

Energica is still open in San Fran, give them a visit they are a really great group there.  Some parts may become available soon, a bird tells me.

New tires don't really pick up more stuff off the roads.  if anything, they are slippery from the release agent from the mold at manufacturing, so be careful for the first dozen miles or so, out to maybe 100 miles on turns as you don't always lean to get the slip off the sides like a track run would do in a lap or two.  But yes it sucks when a new 200 plus tire gets eaten.  Which is where the ride-on stuff works.

Check with the new  england shop, he may have some parts for you too.  id put the 100 amp in if that's what they have been doing, since the bike will soft stop it at 75, having a few extra amps headroom is good.   85 percent is not quite where it starts to taper the charge off yet, so if you were charging the bike at close to max 75a that fuse is going to be very warm anyways due to how close to it's limit it is, so yeah a few extra amps for even a short time can pop a hot fuse. a 100 gives you the thermal mass to keep that from happening.

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Re: No DCFC!
« Reply #28 on: June 04, 2025, 01:38:41 PM »

I forgot I had the PDF service manual for this bike. It does show how to remove the battery. As I expected, it looks like a big hassle to remove the battery and to reinstall it.


But it doesn't seem to even mention how to get to the 75-amp use, or that it even exists.


Anyway, it's probably not even worth fixing--all because of a fuse, which seems a bit ridiculous, IMO.


AT least I can still ride the bike and charge at 3.3 KW, but there will be no more long trips on it.


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Re: No DCFC!
« Reply #29 on: June 04, 2025, 09:46:40 PM »

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