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[Specter]

ive unfortunately had some eat the insulation.  yah paste too.  and rodents will tear the hell out of anything, they just gnaw for the sake of chewing.  whats the worst is when they bridge a kv supply and it all flashes one day.  burnt ant anus is not a nice smell first thing in the morning.

aaron

[Richard230]

Yesterday the CA Governor's office announced that California has installed over 1700 charging outlets around the state, with more to come. Needless to say most of those are L2 types. So anyone driving a new fast-charge BYD car (if they were ever to sell them in the state) are unlikely to be helped much by all of those 240V charging stations. 

BTW, there was no mention of who owns and maintains those state-installed charging outlets.   

[CagivaRider]

I just returned from New Zealand. There are BYDs everywhere there.

[DonTom]

Yesterday the CA Governor's office announced that California has installed over 1700 charging outlets around the state, with more to come. Needless to say most of those are L2 types. So anyone driving a new fast-charge BYD car (if they were ever to sell them in the state) are unlikely to be helped much by all of those 240V charging stations. 

BTW, there was no mention of who owns and maintains those state-installed charging outlets.   

I just hope he doesn't pile them up everywhere except for where needed the most.


IOW, we don't need another 1,700 charge stations in Sacramento, where we now have 910 there alone!  How about some way out in the boonies? Places such as Sierra City, or Downieville? Or on the way up to Susanville? 


BTW, L2 is fine with me and my Zero DSR/X. But I don't think you understand the idea behind having many J-1772 stations. When there are enough of them, you plug in at every stop you make for anything. You may leave home with near an empty charge yet return with near a full charge if you make many long stops at various places.


Only need the DCFC for long fast trips, not for daily use.


There is rarely a reason to full an EV battery for daily use.


-Don-  Auburn, CA

[Richard230]

I heard a new report recently that California's governor's office was bragging that the state now had 178,000 chargers available, more than the number of gas pumps in the state. But just a few minutes ago I heard another report that mentioned that 160,000 of those chargers were ones that were installed in people's homes. The other 18,000 charging outlets are mostly L2 types - likely because they are relatively cheap and easy to install. There was no mention of where they are located, but Don Tom is likely correct that they are located based more upon population density than where they might be needed due to lack of chargers out in the boondocks.

It was also mentioned by the reporter that the state needed more fast charging stations, but they would have to be privately owned and maintained, which would require the stations to make a profit, apparently implying that most do not.

[DonTom]

It was also mentioned by the reporter that the state needed more fast charging stations, but they would have to be privately owned and maintained, which would require the stations to make a profit, apparently implying that most do not.

And that is the main issue. I don't see how many of them can make any profit and it also explains why there are so few of them out in the boonies.


As it is, the few that I do see out in the boonies get very little use--except for by me on my electric motorcycle rides.


Fortunately, many of the ones out in the boonies are paid for by where they do not need to make a profit and are often free to use. Such as here.   Note I am the only one who has ever checked in there, yet it is free to use. That is my blue Tesla in the photo while I was hiking there.  When the weather is better, I will often be charging my Zero DSR/X there. I never saw another charge station there in use.


If they cannot get much use in the boonies even when free to use, it well shows the problem.


-Don-  Auburn, CA