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Grauteufel

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Moto-e
« on: March 17, 2025, 02:48:04 PM »

It’s weird to hear the brand running moto-e gp isn’t exactly enthusiastic about electric bikes. Livia was such a better proponent.

https://www.thetimes.com/business-money/companies/article/ducati-boss-an-electric-super-bike-it-doesnt-quite-work-rzn6bt2dt
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flynnstig82r

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Re: Moto-e
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2025, 10:32:50 PM »

I wish I could say he was wrong. Ducati is making a smart bet by using Moto-E to stay at the forefront of electric motorcycle tech without trying to go big on selling electric road bikes before the market is ready. Someday people will recognize that electrics don’t need to be as light as gas bikes because they carry their weight better, and the charging network will be fully ready or hybrids will become more common. When that day comes, we’ll be able to say that we rode electrics before they were cool.
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Re: Moto-e
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2025, 01:25:13 AM »

I can't really see Hybrids ever becoming a real thing.  The whole electric thing is to replace gas, and hybies are just more parts to go wrong and complicate things.  I only want to save half the planet so will go hybrid!

But yes, once the tech is ready I think they'll be well set to go with it.  Yes the bikes carry it better but still 600 lbs is a heavy bitch, especially if you have to pick it up off the ground. 

The thing is though, Ducatti is ICE period, that's what they are, and they have ZERO intention of changing really.  The whole e thing is just so they could tick the PC boxes and say yes we care too, now get off our fucking backs with the green bullshit already.  In reality they pretty much hate, loathe, and can't stand electric bikes.

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Re: Moto-e
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2025, 07:05:48 PM »

High end motorcycles are enough of a niche as it is, so electric ones might as well be unicorns. The economics just don't make sense for Ducati to start selling something resembling a V21L right now but I'm optimistic that some breakthroughs will happen within the next 5 years or so. Until then, I'll keep enjoying my Energica.
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Re: Moto-e
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2025, 08:03:31 PM »

Ducati these days is all about being (or trying to be) the best, the fastest. They're the Ferrari of motorcycles. They don't do the low power "beginner" bikes, every segment they enter is at the upper end. Their lowest power 2 cylinder sportbike is 120hp, 4 cylinder is well over 200, same goes for their naked versions, their adventure bikes are 115 and 170, their "enduro" bike is 110hp, their muscle cruiser is one of the fastest accelerating bikes on the road, their supermoto is beating even KTM, and they've just entered motocross with a proper race bike and taking podiums. Perhaps their only bikes that aren't at the top of their game is the Monster, which is more of a nostalgia piece, and the Scrambler but even that is way more power than you'd ever need if it was actually taken off-road.

Once they've got something that can best Energica (that's not just taking one of their race bikes, because a $100k+ bike would be a tough sell even for them), perhaps even be higher performance than a Panigale V4s, then I can see them coming out with something electric. They're not going to let themselves get left in the dust for the sake of sticking with ICE.
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Re: Moto-e
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2025, 09:34:22 PM »

Gotta remember that not so long ago the idea of Ducati making anything other than a desmo V-twin was heresy. They're open to whatever works. Right now they know that an EV can't compete with the V4 so there's no real point - I think they were saying in one of the rags that they need about 2x to 3x the energy density before it'll be properly competitive (I agree - 30kWh is the minimum to compete with ICE on a level footing)

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