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[2020_SRS_Commuter]

52 highway miles on an SR/S means there is a massive problem with your battery and you should probably go through the warranty process.

Doesn't that depend on how fast you're going? "Highway" covers a lot of ground, from 50-60mph to open expressways 80-90mph.

[2020_SRS_Commuter]

Zero have acknowledged the fault with pre-22 bikes 14.4 batteries. Every single one of them is a dud. Get them replaced.

The exception doesn't make the rule, but to give them a little good press here I have 58k miles on a 2020 SRS with the original battery, and the capacity is still near new. I don't notice any difference at all except as I've said elsewhere, trying to keep at a constant pace of greater than 90mph will cause it to heat and slow after about 20 minutes.

[DesignerDan]

52 highway miles on an SR/S means there is a massive problem with your battery and you should probably go through the warranty process.

Doesn't that depend on how fast you're going? "Highway" covers a lot of ground, from 50-60mph to open expressways 80-90mph.

Last night I got less than 50 miles with the cruise control set to 68mph. I also have the magic charging problem which isn’t how it’s supposed to work.

Everyone expects a battery with a 100k mile / 5 year warranty to last either 100k miles or 5 years. The reality is after 30-40k miles it has to be replaced and then after another 30-40k miles it has to be replaced again and you didn’t even make it to 100k miles.

I participated in the Zero circle jerk for over a decade but enough is enough.

WHERE IS THE BATTERY THAT WE ALL PAID FOR!?

[MVetter]

Most people don't ride their Zeros enough to go over 50k miles. That being said I do know of owners successfully over 100k miles on their original packs. There's just not a ton of data for that level of pack use because the majority of Zero owners primarily use it as a 30-40 mile commuter and it doesn't rack up the miles much that way. And yeah, what you're going through sucks and you should try the warranty process. The new P73 cells appear to be much more stable. Good luck.

[DonTom]

Most people don't ride their Zeros enough to go over 50k miles. That being said I do know of owners successfully over 100k miles on their original packs. There's just not a ton of data for that level of pack use because the majority of Zero owners primarily use it as a 30-40 mile commuter and it doesn't rack up the miles much that way. And yeah, what you're going through sucks and you should try the warranty process. The new P73 cells appear to be much more stable. Good luck.

Which year did they start using the P73?


-Don-  Reno, NV

[MVetter]

Whenever the 17.3 came out.

[Fred]

Zero have acknowledged the fault with pre-22 bikes 14.4 batteries. Every single one of them is a dud. Get them replaced.

I asked about this in another thread, but you seem to have some background knowledge on this. Do you have any more info before I contact a dealer in the UK about my 2021 SR/F that gives an estimate of 68 miles on a full charge?

[princec]

I got my bike (ex demonstrator) from Davant Bikes down in Torquay, who are a proper Zero dealer. It was in and out of their workshop for months getting sorted under warranty for other issues, and eventually I realised that the battery was misbehaving after reading about it here and on Facebook. Here's what they said by email:

Sounds like what we call a battery crimp issue, its known and resolved by replacing the battery with a 2022+ BCB type, this will be 14.4kw unlocked to 15.6kw, and is a way better battery all around.

We will need your motorcycle back here for some data pull, this will include logs + other data stats, juts to prove to Zero that this motorcycle is now due a battery change.

Once a case has been opened, batteries are take a few months to be issued.

and while I was there talking to the tech he said that every single one they'd sold in 2019 and 2020 had been back for a warranty battery eventually and Zero were just getting on and doing it instead of kicking up a fuss.

Cas

[Fred]

Just what I was after. Thanks.

[DesignerDan]

In addition to a battery that actually works, I would like to see Zero incorporate a lockable push button for the storage compartment. I made one myself I couldn’t imagine using my bike without it:

https://youtu.be/flno2wFReyc?si=QFkfwbbzfxZ5QHP-

[mdjak1]

All Zero owners and others on their email list should have gotten news today of a big announcement at EICMA in 19 days from now on the 2025 models.   Can't wait to hear what it is.

[JaimeC]

CCS? NACS? 

[Richard230]

That is news to me. I thought I was on their email list, but maybe no longer. 

[Fred]

Can't wait to hear what it is.

My money's on a "bold new colour scheme" - same as most years. 

[Richard230]

Can't wait to hear what it is.

My money's on a "bold new colour scheme" - same as most years. 

The way things are going right now in the economy and the high-end electric motorcycle market, maybe that is all that they can afford to do.