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[Specter]

Interesting thing about CCS chargers.  They seem to either be in a 100 to 500 volt output range or a 200 to 900ish / 1000 volt range.

For those looking for chargers, make sure that the one you get can go as high as your pack.  With the bikes, the lesser / lesser expensive one will do just fine, but for those who may be thinking of using it for their cars too, make sure it can reach the upper voltage of the cars pack.

Interesting question though, I have NO idea, as there are so many chargers / batteries out there now, but lets say you had one that ran from say 480 volts to like 560 volts.  Would the lesser charger just top off and say ok that's all I can do ir would it just say No can do period?

Aaron

[toddbailey]

my concern is battery chemistry.  if it's as explosive as some of the li-ion batteries being used currently I'm not interested.   

[Specter]

To somewhat answer my own question.  ive been tinkering and talking to tesla a bit.
the old chargers won't charge a newer battery UNLESS it's system is designed like the tesla / gm to go from lower power older chargers to the higher voltage systems.  The Tesla and id presume the GE shit, has a built in boost/buck converter so that yes even though the older standard CCS1 charger will only top out at 500 volts, their vehicles WILL  work on that, will take it and convert to the 820 volts the cyber truck battery is running at.  obviously there are some losses with an extra conversion step, and heat, but the system will work.     if you are diy'ing it, then no the lower volt charger won't charge even partially a higher rated volt pack, as it'd just fault out.

I am seriously looking at getting a cyber truck and after talking to my accountant, think i may be able to write it almost entirely off on my business.  yes i still pay for it but it's reimbursed from tax burden, which means just chaching the 401 and flip the taxes paid back into your pocket - or truck.  then reinvest 401 into normal account that is already tax paid on, so from that point forward, only interest is taxable, but that's workable too....
anyways...

with that and my charger for the bike, was wondering if it'd work properly.  yes it does.   i can even use the tesla to charge my bike, and sleep in too at the track.   ill sleep up front, put the buzzard in the back if he gets too pesty.  hot diggity, time to go racing nation wide now. once my crap is healed up.

Aaron

[flynnstig82r]

To somewhat answer my own question.  ive been tinkering and talking to tesla a bit.
the old chargers won't charge a newer battery UNLESS it's system is designed like the tesla / gm to go from lower power older chargers to the higher voltage systems.  The Tesla and id presume the GE shit, has a built in boost/buck converter so that yes even though the older standard CCS1 charger will only top out at 500 volts, their vehicles WILL  work on that, will take it and convert to the 820 volts the cyber truck battery is running at.  obviously there are some losses with an extra conversion step, and heat, but the system will work.     if you are diy'ing it, then no the lower volt charger won't charge even partially a higher rated volt pack, as it'd just fault out.

I am seriously looking at getting a cyber truck and after talking to my accountant, think i may be able to write it almost entirely off on my business.  yes i still pay for it but it's reimbursed from tax burden, which means just chaching the 401 and flip the taxes paid back into your pocket - or truck.  then reinvest 401 into normal account that is already tax paid on, so from that point forward, only interest is taxable, but that's workable too....
anyways...

with that and my charger for the bike, was wondering if it'd work properly.  yes it does.   i can even use the tesla to charge my bike, and sleep in too at the track.   ill sleep up front, put the buzzard in the back if he gets too pesty.  hot diggity, time to go racing nation wide now. once my crap is healed up.

Aaron

Out of curiosity, why a Cybertruck over something like a Ford Lightning? I know the latter wasn’t very well received, either, but I thought it was better put-together than a Cybertruck?

[Specter]

are the ford lightnings even available yet / anymore.   really don't hear much about them really.  i like the ac power module / feedback the tesla has that i don't think lightning has.  not too keen on the stainless, that is going to be a FFN (forever fkn nightmare) trying to keep clean smudge free.  but one could easily sleep in the thing at the track etc, cook out of it, among many other things where power would be needed.

I sell coffee online, and i set up my coffee roaster at the track to provide coffee for folks for free and of course sell roasted too.  with the tesla being able to put out 11kw i think it is, or 9 kw, that will easily power my roaster and get a good charge on the bike too.

Aaron

[Starpower]

You can find a F-150 Lightning, FAR better than the falling apart Cybertruck. The Rivian is better than the Ford and the same cost of the ugly Tesla.

Then there is the impressive Slate coming very soon - https://www.slate.auto/en

I have a 2025 Ioniq 6 Limited  (800V) that on a 350kW charger that will add about 200 miles in 15 min., 100 miles in about 5 min. and 10-80% in about 20 min. Damn fine car BTW. I happily sold my '18 Tesla M3 dual motor.

[flynnstig82r]

I believe the Lightning puts out 7 kW of L2 power. I met someone at an electric meetup a couple years ago who had one and charged his Zero with it.

[Specter]

I was looking at the Rivian very keenly too.  Then all the fiasco with it, and their constant, oh look a new shiny object  WEEEeeee!!! stuff, instead of fixing known issues, kind of turned me off.  Also the fact that Tesla dealer and repair center is right down the road, and rivian is a 4 hour drive for a service center, never mind an actual dealer so I can kick tires... no thanks.

I've asked Tesla many high level tech kind of questions and they answered me right away, Rivian was more of an annoyed, well maybe call this number, only to get a run around from someone reading a script, and did you hug your maple tree today!!! ... not impressed.

I was also looking at that one, the work horse?  forget the name of the company but they never came to fruition sadly.

I'll check out that slate link.  thank you !!

Aaron

[Motoproponent]

Silverado and Denali EV trucks can push 10kw V2V at up to 400volts through the CCS port. Also has a kick ass AC output at 120 and 240 volts. Hertz is unloading Silverado EV work truck 3T and 4T for a song right now.

Just saying.

Take that to the track. Charge the Ego at 10KW between sessions and have enough AC capacity to run a welder, or coffee roaster. Early ads for the Silverado EV mentioned some kind of "Dual Channel" thing where you could hook it up to a J1772 and it would still be able to push all the DC and AC outputs while continually accepting the AC charge from the Jplug.

Also has V2L capability so you can get a GM branded bidirectional charger and run your house on a 205KWH "power wall" you can drive around when you want to.

[Specter]

i'll have to check into hertz now that you mention it.

That slate. hmm i don't know.  sounds like it's going to be the next Yugo, and with only 1000 lb towing capacity, that's pretty weak, i couldn't even tow my bike!  bike 570 lb   charger 160 lb   trailer ehh  600 ish maybe more?  yah, were overloaded already and I ain't even got my beer in there yet!!

Aaron

[Motoproponent]

i'll have to check into hertz now that you mention it.
Aaron

Better hurry, word got out, There's only 3 left

https://www.hertzcarsales.com/used-cars-for-sale.htm?compositeType=new&geoRadius=0&geoZip=32789&make=Chevrolet&model=Silverado%20EV

[Specter]

im already talking to them. theres 1 right in orlando.  people were not very knowledgeable when i called on the phone.  i want to pull a chapter 179 on it, but the bed might not be long enough, needs to be 6 foot for the full rebate. hoping i can get it with the heavy work truck moniker, waiting to see what the accountant has to say

aaron

[Specter]

so, i can't use the 179 to full advantage due to the bed size being just an eek too small. that really sucks ass, then again ge never cared anyways, they lose billions they get fed by government bailouts.

if i trade in my 2017 ill pay 31k for this truck.    a 2024 with  a few k miles on it.

anyone heard of any issues with the electric silverado's at all yet?

aaron