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Author Topic: Looking for a new helmet with internal bluetooth coms - help?  (Read 2061 times)

MrMogensen

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1st helmet => Schuberth S1 Pro with external Interphone coms.
2nd helmet => A now 8-9 year old Schuberth S2 with Schuberth SRC coms collar. Just sold the SRC collar and the S2 will be kept as a great gocart helmet or whatever.

Was never a fan of the SRC system. Often had issues with voicecommands and had several malfunctions with broken cables since the collar takes a beating every time helmet is going on/off.

Few weeks ago I bought a barely used Schuberth C4 Pro Carbon including the SC1 kit. Was a great deal and looks completely new. This is size 59 and the S2 size is called 58/59. I was surprised that the C4 chin area feels so tight and not easy to close the helmet since the top of my chin is kind of "in the way". As you can read from above I am not used to a flipup helmet and I thought that Schuberths interior shapes was all alike. Unfortunately I found a defect when I did a closer inspection at home - one of the security straps going around the neck (making sure the helmet can't fall off during an accident) was loose. Schuberth has 5 year warranty so no issue - went to the local dealer and I will get it back in about 4-6 weeks.
Before visiting the dealer I I googled some more about sizing and seems like I am not the only one who found it weird that the C4 was so different in size? The local dealer also said that, of some reason Schuberth changed the internal shape a bit and that he had several long-term Schuberth costumers who had to buy something else when C4 was new. I tried several other helmets... Schuberth C3 Pro, Schuberth C5, Shoei Neotec 2. I should have tried the Shoei GT Air 2 but I guess internal shape is same as the Neotec 2.
I tried these particular helmets since they can get built in coms (Sena). Best fit was Shoei but I suspect it was the extreme plushy cushions inside - not exactly the sporty feel of my S2. He said I should come back with my bike so I could take short rides with each of the helmets.

C5 and Neotec 2/GT Air 2 is quite expensive and then I haven't even bought the coms yet.
C3 Pro is not far from no longer in production - maybe it's the choice until something better pops up? It's just far from the sportier S2 look I like.
Tests suggest that Shoei is a premium helmet but many find them quite noisy.

Are there other options out there with low dB numbers and option for built in coms?
Many of you have most likely at some point been riding with Schuberths and can compare them with whatever you had?
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Re: Looking for a new helmet with internal bluetooth coms - help?
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2022, 08:11:34 PM »

I recommend checking out this site for more information about helmets than you will know what to do with. I have been reading their helmet evaluations for years and have found them to be very accurate, or at least as accurate as they can be considering that everyone has a slightly different shaped and size head: https://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-helmets/
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Re: Looking for a new helmet with internal bluetooth coms - help?
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2022, 09:53:31 PM »

The only other helmet besides Schuberth that offers an optional built-in bluetooth communicator is Nolan.  Considering that for years (I don't know if it's still true) you could buy a Nolan helmet PLUS NCOM communicator for the price of a bare Schuberth, I've been using Nolans.  I haven't checked the pricing recently for the Schuberths because I've been perfectly happy with my Nolans.  My current helmet is the N70-2GT Hi Viz:
https://www.nolan-usa.com/products/nolan-n70-2gt-hi-vis-touring-crossover-motorcycle-helmet-dot.html

In the winter or in bad weather I use it as a full-face, otherwise I configure it as an open-face.  In Europe it passes the ECE safety tests as BOTH an open face, and a full-face (depending on which way you're using it).  Most modular helmets are only certified as an open-face even with the jawpiece in place.  This helmet also has the biggest viewport I've ever seen when in full-face configuration.  Ryan of Fortnine tested the predecessor of this helmet (the N44) and was surprised at how well it did:

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Re: Looking for a new helmet with internal bluetooth coms - help?
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2022, 10:06:30 PM »

I like my quinn helmet.
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Re: Looking for a new helmet with internal bluetooth coms - help?
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2022, 10:17:49 PM »

The only other helmet besides Schuberth that offers an optional built-in bluetooth communicator is Nolan.

There are more than just Schuberth & Nolan available. As a random example:
https://www.motorcycleid.com/bluetooth-helmets.html

Or maybe something a bit funky:
https://www.ruroc.com/en_us/atlas-4-raw-carbon.html
And ECE 22.06 to boot.
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Re: Looking for a new helmet with internal bluetooth coms - help?
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2022, 12:35:08 AM »

Interesting.  I see the landscape has changed... which really shouldn't be surprising considering how prevalent smartphones with bluetooth connectivity have become.  Thanks for that.
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Re: Looking for a new helmet with internal bluetooth coms - help?
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2022, 01:35:22 AM »

Wow thanks for the inputs people!
I have been looking af bit on the AGV Sportmodular helmet. Will have to find somewhere near me so I can try it.

Interesting.  I see the landscape has changed... which really shouldn't be surprising considering how prevalent smartphones with bluetooth connectivity have become.  Thanks for that.
Yeah since most of my daily commute is quite boring (mostly straight and half of it highway) I've got earplugs in and listen to music via the phone - just like I would in my car (except for the plugs).
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