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DonTom

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Re: Are EVs a scam?
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2021, 11:59:33 PM »

The points in the article at not wrong, mostly.  Any non-EV person contemplating an EV has thought of them.

I like the term "deadhead" miles.  It's true for long distance traveling that you have to plan to go places you wouldn't otherwise.  Included in deadhead miles is another soft cost not listed - eating out for lunch.  Lemme explain: If you are traveling 6+ hours (say Cleveland to Chicago), you could make the trip without having to stop long for a meal, unless you really want to.  A gas station takes 5 minutes.  With an EV, you need much more time to charge.  What do us EV people always tell those ICE people?  "Just stop for lunch while it's charging".  But that only makes sense if you wanted to stop and buy the whole family lunch in the first place.  The rest of us would just pack some snacks for the trip.

This is just one example of inconvenience.  There are many.  It's a rich person's game
I own a Zero, but have no interest in an EV car yet.
There are countless EV Car owners who have NEVER charged on the road.  I charged my 2018 Tesla two times when on the road since I owned it since new. How often do most people take a trip far enough to need a charge while in route?


I am now several thousand miles from home. I used my RV. No way would I do this trip in ANY type of car.


Anyway, one thing I noticed about people who criticize the range issue on EVs are usually those who have not driven more than 50 miles from home for many years.


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Richard230

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Re: Are EVs a scam?
« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2021, 12:06:28 AM »

Even on my SR/F I only just had enough time to actually stop and have a proper lunch when I travelled to North Wales (fish and chips, mushy peas, slice of bread and butter, mug of tea... and it was fantastic). I also stopped for a slice of cake and a coffee, and another time for a crappy Morrisons sandwich and a little rest. Stopping for a rest makes a hell of a lot more sense on a bike, I reckon, because it's far more tiring.

Cas :)

It sounds like stopping to recharge along a trip will lead to ruining your diet and adding to the weight that your bike has to haul around.  ;)
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Re: Are EVs a scam?
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2021, 09:15:50 PM »

Anyway, one thing I noticed about people who criticize the range issue on EVs are usually those who have not driven more than 50 miles from home for many years.
This! My aged friend Colin should really, really get a Super Soco TC Max or similar, for just noodling about on, because his CB500R is just too big and heavy for him (he's very short and old). But the thing that's stopping him is the fact the TC Max can only do about 40 miles on a charge... despite the fact that I don't think he's ventured further than 20 miles away on his bike all year.

Cas :)
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