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[sharagan]

don't forget the chrome....everywhere

[Richard230]

don't forget the chrome....everywhere

And tassels, along with a small good luck bell at the bottom front of the bike just behind the wheel to ward off evil spirits!   

[alby62]

invece  che  una  doppia  batteria  preferirei  un caricatore  super veloce , meno peso da  portarsi in giro,  costo inefriore  all'acquisto. ti voglio vedere  percorre 300 miglia  o 480 km tutto di un fiato,un conto percorrerli a  150 km/  h , 20 anni fa  ne percorsi 1450km  in un giorno, ma se viaggi a  80 km/h perchè al contrario non riesci ad arrivare  a  destinazione , le  sei ore di file di giuda  diventano molte  ,ti viene  il sedere  quadrato.

[SonOfAnakin]

In case you are not yet aware: http://brutusmotorcycle.com/brutusV9.html

33.7kWh and DC fast charging, if you can afford it.  I wish I could.

[SonOfAnakin]

I agree.  Right now as far as I'm concerned, Zero is the only manufacturer making practical, affordable, highway-capable motorcycles for REASONABLE prices.  The market is saturated with low-end bikes that are great for toodling around urban environments but not suitable for highway use and ultra-expensive boutique bikes whose sole purpose seems to be "Look what we can build!"

Curious why you are excluding Energica from that statement.  The pricing is quite similar between an SR/S Premium with additional 6KW or Power Tank, and a Esse Esse 9+ and the battery size difference and DC fast charging more than accounts for the Energica pulling in a bit more money.  One reason to exclude them might be that you have to go up to the top of the line Zero to get close to an Energica.  If that's the reason, then I can see that.  But if you are looking for a Zero suited for long trips, then you were probably already looking at the top Zeros.

I own an SR with charge tank, which works pretty well, but I'm considering a move to the bigger Energica in order to be able to do more with it.

[princec]

Energicas are not at all reasonably priced. Here in the UK they're nearly as expensive as the LiveWire, which is to say, approximately twice as expensive as Zeros. But definitely not twice as good. They're exotica for the well-heeled, plain and simple, like MV and Ducati. Except even pricier.

Cas

[Crissa]

My spouse got her Ducati new for only a couple K more than our friend just got a used Rebel without ABS for.

Prices are high right now in the vehicle markets from bikes to trucks and very regional.

-Crissa

[SonOfAnakin]

Must be.  I'm pricing out Both Zero SR/S and Energica models, both coming in about $25k USD.  Crazy that the prices are so different regionally.

[JaimeC]

I agree.  Right now as far as I'm concerned, Zero is the only manufacturer making practical, affordable, highway-capable motorcycles for REASONABLE prices.  The market is saturated with low-end bikes that are great for toodling around urban environments but not suitable for highway use and ultra-expensive boutique bikes whose sole purpose seems to be "Look what we can build!"

Curious why you are excluding Energica from that statement.  The pricing is quite similar between an SR/S Premium with additional 6KW or Power Tank, and a Esse Esse 9+ and the battery size difference and DC fast charging more than accounts for the Energica pulling in a bit more money.  One reason to exclude them might be that you have to go up to the top of the line Zero to get close to an Energica.  If that's the reason, then I can see that.  But if you are looking for a Zero suited for long trips, then you were probably already looking at the top Zeros.

I own an SR with charge tank, which works pretty well, but I'm considering a move to the bigger Energica in order to be able to do more with it.

You are comparing the Energicas with the top of the line Zeros.  However, the Gen2 bikes are the ones I'm talking about.  The FX, FXE, FXS, S and DS (even when they had the 14.4kWh battery) were far cheaper than any Energica yet all are capable of going onto the highway.  The FX bikes don't have the range of the S and DS bikes but they are far more capable than those cheap bikes coming out of China.  I'll reserve my judgement on that Sondor bike until it is actually shipping.

My 2018 S with the 13kWh battery was exactly what I was looking for.  A year later I upgraded it with the 6kW charge tank and I still paid a lot less for that combo than even a base version SR/F, never mind the Energicas.  That's what I was talking about.  My idea of "Reasonable Price" is UNDER $20,000 out the door.

[Richard230]

My daughter just rode the 38 miles to my house to visit me today. She still had 69% SOC shown on her 2014 Zero with Power Tank when she arrived. That is the same performance that I get with my 2018 S with PT. Not bad after almost 8 years.  It sure beats taking at least 6 hours to go the same distance using three different public transit systems.   

[Crissa]

Or the hours to pedal it

-Crissa

[waynebhayes]

Lot of really good answers here, folks.  Thanks. I certainly agree the SR/[SF] are a step in the right direction.

[MVetter]

In case you are not yet aware: http://brutusmotorcycle.com/brutusV9.html

33.7kWh and DC fast charging, if you can afford it.  I wish I could.

Also firmly in the vaporware category.

[Crissa]

In case you are not yet aware: http://brutusmotorcycle.com/brutusV9.html

33.7kWh and DC fast charging, if you can afford it.  I wish I could.

Also firmly in the vaporware category.

Seems pretty real.  Stupidly expensive, too.

-Crissa

[mdjak1]

In case you are not yet aware: http://brutusmotorcycle.com/brutusV9.html

33.7kWh and DC fast charging, if you can afford it.  I wish I could.

Also firmly in the vaporware category.

Seems pretty real.  Stupidly expensive, too.

-Crissa

Look at the rear shots in that video @ 2:52 and 2:56.  Ridiculously huge brick of a battery on each side of the bike.  Must be the 33.7 kWh pack that weighs 886 lbs.   I wonder how many they have actually built?