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Richard230

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The latest LiveWire brand news
« on: June 05, 2021, 04:49:30 AM »

Here is a link to what Motorcycle.com has to say about the LiveWire brand that is scheduled to be introduced on July 8:
https://www.motorcycle.com/features/what-to-expect-from-livewire-harley-davidsons-electric-motorcycle-brand.html
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Re: The latest LiveWire brand news
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2021, 05:31:50 AM »

So just as was foretold by the guys at Damon, mainly Derek Dorresteyn the COO of Damon Motorcycle and the former CTO of Alta Motorcycles.
As he said HD and Alta were working on a "project" bike before they had bad blood.  The one prototype drawing of the larger dirt bike basically has the exact same battery pack unit as the Alta.

The smaller one looks like a Sur Ron copy.  The scooter isn't worth mentioning.

The brand also comes with my most telling buzz phrase, "targeted at the urban market".  This means it's slow and has crap range but will still be over priced because it's for city captives.
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Re: The latest LiveWire brand news
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2021, 10:53:21 PM »

I am no businessman and for the life of me I can't see how Harley who as been financially struggling will make money with a dedicated EV Showroom and support staff when they only have one model out in the market, and that model does not seem all that popular.

How many bikes a month do they have to sell to support a showroom and staff?

I looked at the Livewire several times and it is a nice bike, ...... then bought bought a Zero because of their track record and have no regrets.
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Re: The latest LiveWire brand news
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2021, 02:40:05 AM »

Probably the e-bikes.  Class 1-3 are selling like hotcakes right now, no one can keep them in stock.

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Re: The latest LiveWire brand news
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2021, 07:27:38 PM »

Does anybody know when / where / how the Livewire announcement is going to be made?  Google search just returns articles from weeks ago stating the announcement of the new model will be on July 8th. 

EDIT:  The media release is supposed to be 10 AM CST.
« Last Edit: July 08, 2021, 07:35:36 PM by domingo3 »
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Re: The latest LiveWire brand news
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2021, 08:00:33 PM »

Does anybody know when / where / how the Livewire announcement is going to be made?  Google search just returns articles from weeks ago stating the announcement of the new model will be on July 8th. 

EDIT:  The media release is supposed to be 10 AM CST.

As Sargent Schultz used to say on the TV program Hogan's Heros, "I know nothing."  ;)
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Re: The latest LiveWire brand news
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2021, 11:52:23 PM »

Does anybody know when / where / how the Livewire announcement is going to be made?  Google search just returns articles from weeks ago stating the announcement of the new model will be on July 8th. 

EDIT:  The media release is supposed to be 10 AM CST.

https://www.livewire.com/product

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Re: The latest LiveWire brand news
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2021, 12:09:07 AM »

562 pounds.  The very first spec I looked at, and one which is the singularly most important.  No thanks.
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Re: The latest LiveWire brand news
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2021, 12:53:39 AM »

Price dropped considerably, that's for sure. Much more in line with the other brands.
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Re: The latest LiveWire brand news
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2021, 03:21:25 AM »

Here is the news about the LiveWire One. H-D has cut the price substantially. Just keep your fingers crossed that they haven't cut any corners on the high quality of the original version. The two colors seem a little bland.  It looks like they are going for internet sales to start. That should be interesting. Will they be shipping it to your home or have you pick it up at an established H-D dealer? I wonder if the lower price represents the profit margin to the franchised H-D dealer of the original model? The lower price could also be due to H-D receiving and selling "carbon credits" on the California pollution credit market:  https://electrek.co/2021/07/08/harley-davidsons-livewire-one-electric-motorcycle-launches-with-dramatically-lower-price/
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Re: The latest LiveWire brand news
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2021, 04:32:02 AM »

It says it's only sold in CA TX and NY until the fall.

Also the fine print is the $20k price is after tax credit.
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Re: The latest LiveWire brand news
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2021, 04:33:37 AM »

It says it's only sold in CA TX and NY until the fall.

Also the fine print is the $20k price is after tax credit.

That fine print will get you every time.  ::)
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Re: The latest LiveWire brand news
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2021, 07:37:41 AM »

Haptic Feedback? Really?

I'd heard that Harley had purposely de-tuned engines to get their signature sound, but was anybody really asking to make the bike vibrate when it is on?
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Re: The latest LiveWire brand news
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2021, 08:02:24 PM »

Haptic Feedback? Really?

I'd heard that Harley had purposely de-tuned engines to get their signature sound, but was anybody really asking to make the bike vibrate when it is on?
 

I bet that is a feature that their traditional customers appreciate.  ;)

However, LiveWire reviewers speculate that the vibration at idle is there to let you know that your bike is still on and ready to take off with a turn of the throttle.  Plus, you do have the option to turn that Haptic Feedback off.
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Re: The latest LiveWire brand news
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2021, 04:18:22 AM »

I'd heard that Harley had purposely de-tuned engines to get their signature sound, but was anybody really asking to make the bike vibrate when it is on?
Yes.  Yes, people ask for feedback of when the bike is enabled.

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