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valnar

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Energica vs Zero availability
« on: June 13, 2020, 07:35:35 PM »

I thought I'd post something fun.  This is not meant to start any arguments...

To all Zero owners...IF an Energica dealer had been (or is) as close to you as a local Zero dealer, would you have considered them?

For me, it was a non-starter. I've never seen an Energica in my life and no dealers near me in Ohio.  I'd probably still find them too heavy for my tastes, but I have no way of knowing..
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Re: Energica vs Zero availability
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2020, 08:06:48 PM »

I bought my first Zero in January 2012 from a multi-brand dealer located about 10 miles from my home.  I then replaced it with a 2014 Zero bought from the same dealer.  In 2017 my longtime BMW dealer, located 40 miles away, started carrying the Energica brand, but by then I was satisfied with my Zero experience and both the price of the Energica, its weight, complexity and the fact that it was an unproven motorcycle by a new manufacturer at the time put me off from buying one.  For my type of riding and usage, I find that my Zero works for me.
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Re: Energica vs Zero availability
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2020, 09:12:21 PM »

There's an Energica dealer near me which is very strongly influencing the way way I lean on this (just not jumped yet because of occasionally bemoaned-about weight issues) Main issue with the Zero: nearest dealer is 70 miles away... at the very edge of their range and there's no DCFC for it, so <shrugs>

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Re: Energica vs Zero availability
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2020, 10:19:11 PM »

I feel this is more aimed at SR/F and SR/S owners, possibly SR. There could be an Energica dealer right next door to me and I still wouldn't have bought one as it doesn't serve my needs. Too expensive, too heavy, not suited to going off road, not as much storage (and it's too powerful for me to ride on my current licence but let's just assume I had a full licence).

Now, if I was in the market for an SR/F or SR/S as an additional bike then an Energica would be tempting. My nearest dealer is English Electric at about 80 miles away and less than 2 hours which I think is fine, I don't think the fact that a Zero dealer would be closer than that would weigh into my buying decision.
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« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2020, 10:37:41 PM »

The real problem is: how do you get it to the dealer for a quick job and then come back? (I do this more frequently than I'd wish) For a Zero, it means your dealer must be less than 40 miles away (20 for the FX range), or you're stuck there for four to eight hours while it charges up so you can get home again, or you have to have a loaner (fraught with difficulties), or a lift, or a van. PITA.

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Re: Energica vs Zero availability
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2020, 10:48:46 PM »

The real problem is: how do you get it to the dealer for a quick job and then come back? (I do this more frequently than I'd wish) For a Zero, it means your dealer must be less than 40 miles away (20 for the FX range), or you're stuck there for four to eight hours while it charges up so you can get home again, or you have to have a loaner (fraught with difficulties), or a lift, or a van. PITA.

Exactly.  While I've followed Zero for some time, I wouldn't have considered buying my FXS if there wasn't a dealer within driving distance.  In my case, 12 miles away.
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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2020, 01:31:48 AM »

It's really gutting because I absolutely want an FXS :(

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« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2020, 02:52:48 AM »

I'm stuck at the dealer waiting for them to finish anyhow.  So charging up for an hour to get home isn't a big deal.  They're almost 40 miles away over a 2500' pass and I need 65% to get home.  And I do not have the big battery!

So I don't get this argument at all.

Energica's dealer support network is definitely a weakness.  By being in Livermore they've taken themselves out of consideration until we have a truck.  They're 70 miles away, but ugh.  That's two 2500' passes via freeway so not even fun to ride.

The Energica is too big, too heavy, too expensive now and later.  Sure, it's probably the best ride freeway right now.  But that's not the be-all of motorcycling.

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« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2020, 04:58:23 AM »

I'm stuck at the dealer waiting for them to finish anyhow.  So charging up for an hour to get home isn't a big deal.  They're almost 40 miles away over a 2500' pass and I need 65% to get home.  And I do not have the big battery!

So I don't get this argument at all.

Energica's dealer support network is definitely a weakness.  By being in Livermore they've taken themselves out of consideration until we have a truck.  They're 70 miles away, but ugh.  That's two 2500' passes via freeway so not even fun to ride.

The Energica is too big, too heavy, too expensive now and later.  Sure, it's probably the best ride freeway right now.  But that's not the be-all of motorcycling.

-Crissa

Crissa, I'm not sure where you're located in the bay (I assume that's the Livermore you're speaking of, Cal Moto). But If you're on the peninsula I believe Energica has an official service center in Redwood City. I'm not sure if that's a corporate location where bikes are sent from dealers for more in depth service or if it's open to the public: https://goo.gl/maps/hQwpaGF3JmhLYWcW7

I haven't checked but might be worth a look.

Also, I believe the old Cal Moto Mountain View location is a drop off/pickup location for bikes they service. Not sure if that has changed since COVID started.


Welp, I just saw you said 70miles away. SOOOO ignore all of my last post haha. I'll leave it for others though.
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Re: Energica vs Zero availability
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2020, 06:02:10 AM »

Welp, I just saw you said 70miles away. SOOOO ignore all of my last post haha. I'll leave it for others though.
She lives in Santa Cruz, CA.

I am quite a bit further from any Energica dealer.  I have my SS9 mostly in Reno, NV these days.

Since it looks like the Energica Plus sales will be very high, perhaps soon they will have a few more dealers, if they can make enough bikes to support more dealers.

-Don-  Auburn, CA
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« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2020, 10:23:58 AM »

Yeah, the nearest dealer is Cal Moto; their Redwood City site doesn't do retail services.

But for the peninsula, Energica is not the only bike dealer that's been recently delocated.

-Crissa
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Re: Energica vs Zero availability
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2020, 12:13:23 PM »

Yeah, the nearest dealer is Cal Moto; their Redwood City site doesn't do retail services.

But for the peninsula, Energica is not the only bike dealer that's been recently delocated.

-Crissa
Livermore is better for me than was Mtn. View.    Before the move, the Livermore shop didn't sell Energica.

But I plan on doing my own work on the bike wherever possible. Energica requires a bit more maintenance than any Zero because of needed coolant and gearbox oil changes.

-Don-  Auburn, CA
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Re: Energica vs Zero availability
« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2020, 03:17:31 PM »

their Redwood City site doesn't do retail services.

since when
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Re: Energica vs Zero availability
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2020, 10:07:10 PM »

There's an Energica dealer near me which is very strongly influencing the way way I lean on this (just not jumped yet because of occasionally bemoaned-about weight issues) Main issue with the Zero: nearest dealer is 70 miles away... at the very edge of their range and there's no DCFC for it, so <shrugs>

Cas :)
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Re: Energica vs Zero availability
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2020, 11:47:09 PM »

their Redwood City site doesn't do retail services.

since when

I would be very happy when I buy my Energica if the Redwood City location is available for buying and/or service. Since I live in San Carlos it would make my life much easier in terms of maintenance and buying. When the time comes I'll check with them. I actually work about 3 blocks from that location, but with COVID I feel "dropping by" isn't the best idea. I'll give them a call when I get serious. Worst case scenario I'll head to Livermore.
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