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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Is Zero giving up too?
« on: April 18, 2026, 04:50:19 AM »
What I don't know is whether S, SR, SR/F and SR/S bikes are assembled in Asia also.   I haven't seen a VIN on any European listings.
I have a 2025 SR/S (Netherlands) which has a “PAG-number”.

Thanks for that.  So Zero must be making those in Asia too.   

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Is Zero giving up too?
« on: April 17, 2026, 08:12:01 AM »

I'm happy if I'm wrong. I understood that any assemblies in Asia where for international markets. US market bikes would be assembled in US.
I don't think this is entirely accurate   You can determine build location based on the first 3 digits of the VIN.  538 is Scotts Valley, PAG is the 3rd party assembly plant in the Philippines.   Looking at 2024, 2025 and 2026 Zeros on Cycle Trader and Moto Hunt, it seems that the DS, DSR and DSR/X are being assembled in the Philippines since the model year 2024.   The S, SR, SR/F and SR/S seem to still have 538 VIN numbers.

What I don't know is whether S, SR, SR/F and SR/S bikes are assembled in Asia also.   I haven't seen a VIN on any European listings.

The FX series bikes seem to still carry 538 VINs.   So they are made in Scotts Valley.   The XE bikes carry an A4Z VIN and I understand these are made by Zongshen in China.   Same for XB models.

What does seem to be true is that there are no 2026 model year Zero bikes other than the XB and XE.  Given all the turmoil caused by the Trump administration regarding the economy, electric vehicles, and tariffs, it isn't too surprising that Zero is having a tough time selling full size motorcycles in the USA.   Word is that Livewire is really suffering too.   

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Energica / Re: Experia - Mark Travels
« on: February 10, 2026, 04:16:58 AM »
he needs to do this asap,  i told him already eventually the unbalance will in essence, shut down his bike, and he can only re balance it on ac.
once it gets to 100 mv he'll get the urgent nag screen, soon after, hell breaks loose.

So if 100 mv is bad then his 500 mv difference must a a disaster!   See screen at 9:39.


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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: 2023 DSR/X Recall, Loss of Drive Power
« on: December 18, 2025, 06:52:20 AM »
But that's what I'm saying, they notified dealers on the 5th, will have a fix sorted by the 19th, but then not contacting owners until the 16th of January? It's 7 bikes, they could have the owners tracked down and contacted in an day's work.

Or published the VINs in the recall and then owners like myself would be more aware to look for the recall in the mail?

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Doesn't this make sense?   They moved most of their manufacturing out of the USA to Asia a couple of years back.   Manufacturing labor costs in Northern CA were just too high.   

The US market for electric motorcycles doesn't seem as strong as Europe.   So basing more of the marketing and administration in Europe makes some sense.   The US is still a good place for higher value, higher paying engineering work.  This seems like it will remain in Scotts Valley.   Plus to sell in the USA they still need a distribution point, parts warehouse and service center for dealer service training.   No doubt that will remain in Scotts Valley too.

They already had a company in Netherlands.   If you look at the employment page of their website they are now looking for more upper admin staff.  But they are also still looking to hire in Scotts Valley too. 

https://zeromotorcycles.com/employment

I'm most curious what will happen to the FX and FXE, the two models that as of the 2025 model year were still built in CA.   Do the build numbers justify moving the production to Asia?   I can't imagine that building them in Netherlands is any more cost effective than just maintaining CA production.   So maybe those will remain built in USA?


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There is a US version of this on the NHSTA website.  See attachment.
 
Zero doesn't seem to have released any new firmware yet though.   The Zero website shows the last firmware was MBB41 with the page update of January 29, 2025.    I just updated my 2023 DSR/X today.

Interesting to note that just 319 total number of potentially involved and the estimated percentage with defect is 0.6%.


https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2025/RCLRPT-25V587-9196.pdf

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: DSR/X belt on an SR/F - complete
« on: June 12, 2025, 08:48:53 AM »
I've not found the acceleration on my DSR/X to be wanting.   

This sounds like a very good modification for any SR/S or SR/F owner that has snapped a belt or who lives in fear of snapping a belt.   And if they want to maintain the 90/20T gearing, they can purchase the 2024/2025 DS 20T front sprocket rather than the DSR, DSR/X from 22T sprocket.

It begs the question, why doesn't Zero put the larger belt on the street models?

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: DSR/X belt on an SR/F - complete
« on: June 11, 2025, 10:18:57 AM »
Are these the parts you ordered?  I picked them off the parts lists I have downloaded.

30-08326 Motor Sprocket 22T
30-08476 Rear Wheel Sprocket Mudport. (2023 DSRX)
30-08478 Rear Wheel Sprocket Mudport. (2024 & 2025 DSRX)
30-08325 151T 11MM Pitch 25MM Wide Belt

Not sure why the 2023 rear sprocket has a different part number than the 2024 and 2025 (or if they are interchangeable).  The number of teeth of the rear sprocket isn't mentioned in the parts lists.

Also, do you have the tooth counts on your old sprockets versus the new sprockets?  I'm curious to know the difference.

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I suspect the main reasons why Zero is conducting demos at dealers rather than big events like that is cost.   Shows like that charge exhibitors plenty of money.   Plus you have to cost of having lots of staff on hand to conduct the demo rides safely for the entire event duration.   Whereas at a dealer demo, the dealer is probably providing the parking lot for free.  They have their own staff helping out.  For Zero, they may also provide electricity for charging. (something an event at a fairground might not have or charge a lot extra for).

Zero isn't a large company with tons of resources.   They don't sell hundreds or even probably tens of thousands of bikes per year.  And frankly, the motorcycle market is currently in a deep slump.

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Alta Motorcycles / Another "Who Killed Alta" video(s)
« on: May 19, 2025, 03:38:38 AM »
These seem like very well researched explanations by KRANKiT.





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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Great offers on new Zero'
« on: March 01, 2025, 05:28:51 AM »
Every year Zero has special offers and discounts on previous model year bikes, so discounting is nothing new.   However, it wouldn't surprise me if Zero has more inventory than usual and offers larger discounts than usual as the motorcycle industry in general seems to be in a post-COVID slump.   

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The advertised range, capacity, charging times, will all be to 100% as the 110% is an optional paid extra. Doing the 110% charge isn't as bad as it might seem as by default Zero doesn't take the cells to the full voltage they're rated for, but of course the higher you charge the worse it is for battery longevity and even 100% should be avoided (except every now and then to balance the cells) if it's really that important to you.

On some models the 110% charging is standard.  My 2023 DSR/X has it available and it was no extra charge.  According to the current Zero website:  The DSR/X, SR/S and SR/F come fully loaded with every available Cypher feature..  Likely they are only talking about 2024 and 2025 models (and maybe 2023).

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However with the new DSRX, the range when charging to 100% is more or less the same I had with the DSR 2020 at 100%, so I would like to know if I am using "only" 14 kwh when not charging 1o 110%.


I would suggest you run your battery down as close to 0% as possible and then recharge to 100% at a charging station that has a reading of how many total kWh it has supplied.   That will give you the answer you are looking for regarding whether you have 14 kWh nominal at 100% or 15.1 kWh at 100%.   Regardless, your 2020 DSR only had 12.6 kWh nominal battery capacity.

As to the charging speed being more or less the same as your 2020 DSR, I'm not sure whether anyone here knows the charging curves for both 2020 DSR and 2023-2025 DSR/X.   It is the charging curve that ultimately determines how fast the battery can accept power at any given state of charge.  Maybe they have the same charging curves, maybe they don't.   I'm not even sure the actual cells in the 2020 are the same as those in the 2023-2025 bikes.   That difference could very well be influencing what charging curve Zero uses in each bike.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: DSR/X range
« on: January 22, 2025, 09:56:39 AM »
Sounds like the business is just trying to keep anyone traveling through from picking that location then.  Well within reason for a private business who’d rather have the charger available for employees and not the general public.  My company did something similar when there were still level 2 in the general parking lot next to the facility - employees had a supplemented cost of $0.08/kWh and everyone else was $0.30/kWh.  They did move all the chargers underground when our new badge access parking ramp opened a couple years ago.

The business is actually quite a major international tech company.   The CEO was prominently at the Presidential Inauguration yesterday.   They have porters in their employee parking lots to shuffle employee cars on and off of chargers which effectively keeps the public out of most of the lots during business hours.   On the Chargepoint app, there was always a notation about the chargers being reserved for employees 7AM to 7PM.   Last time I was by, there didn't appear to be any porters shuffling cars.  I don't know if they are supplementing the cost for employees.  There are chargers that can't be accessed by the public and those are also noted to be 38 cents/kWh.   

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: DSRX 2023 vs DSRX 2025
« on: January 22, 2025, 09:44:58 AM »
2025 (and 2024) has wire wheels and LED turn signals.   If you are mainly a road rider, the 2023 would be fine.    If the 2023 you are looking at is used, then it also has less warranty than a new 2024/2025 bike. 

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