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General Discussion / Re: CAOFEN F80----Electric Motorcycle First Debute Soon
« on: September 09, 2021, 09:51:25 AM »
Hi Michael,

For it to sell well in the U.S., it needs to have more range than what's stated in your post — 2304Wh battery is too small of a battery.
Where is it made ?
What's the warranty ?
For service or warranty issues, where are the dealers located ?
Hi my dear friend,thank you for your comments,
We do have the other option 3456Wh on the same model,
Made in China.
Warranty for 2 years with the exceiption of quick-wear parts.
For service or warranty issues,this model has not lauched the market yet,we will keep posted when the dealers located later.
We welcome the valued distributor to contact us for the future cooperation.
Michael,
People won't be riding at 18mph (30km/hr) — the speed used to estimate the range, that speed might make CAOFEN look bad — they'll ride faster, so, it'd be good to give a range spec at about 40mph.  If there is going to be a street-legal model, a range spec for it at 55mph would be good.
What's the range for the 3,456kWh battery ?

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General Discussion / Re: CAOFEN F80----Electric Motorcycle First Debute Soon
« on: September 07, 2021, 01:02:21 PM »
Hi Michael,

For it to sell well in the U.S., it needs to have more range than what's stated in your post — 2304Wh battery is too small of a battery.
Where is it made ?
What's the warranty ?
For service or warranty issues, where are the dealers located ?

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General Discussion / Re: the U.S. EPA likes ICE over EVs
« on: September 07, 2021, 12:27:54 PM »

We don't have time to waste on thinking about excuses — our time needs to be spent on thinking of solutions like business models, creative financing, inventions, etc..

I'm not talking excuses. I'm talking people who can afford $30,000 on an EV toy while they dream of peeing on the little people in fly over country as they sit in business class to realize that there is a great pissed off wave of populism rising against your righteousness. You think Joe Manchin is worried about losing his seat in West Virginia or that Trump is the worst that we can get.

People who stand in line to buy the latest SUPREME drop while virtue tweeting on their slave made iPhone need to chill on the righteousness. Saying wee nee to go electric tomorrow? OK, put down the latte and get your ass hundreds of feet in the air running electric lines or else all you have is self-righteousness and no plan.

Where are you people pushing for Thorium reactors? Yeah...all talk from people online when they have the money and expect the little peons to do the sweat work. The masses will own nothing and be happy.

When people assume & generalize, it makes them look bad — you're assuming & applying what some people do, to other people that actually don't do those things, and you're implying that I can afford a $30,000 EV & that I'm righteous (or anyone that can afford one) — you don't know me, I can't afford one, I'm not rich or well-off, or righteous.
Ask, don't assume & consider that everyone does the same bad things that you don't like.  If you're pissed off then do something constructive that'll improve the situation.

For your information:
- I don't drink any kind of coffee & I never follow the masses.  I only drink natural spring water all day.
- To spend time, money, & resources on installing high voltage aerial lines, hundreds of feet in the air, would be stupid for various reasons — microgrids & nanogrids have begun to replace these high voltage lines.  Why would anyone want those dangerous electrical lines ??
- I have plans — you generalized & assumed again — I'm working on a business model & innovative solar PV project to eliminate some burning of fossil fuels.

I'd love for you to come up with SOME SOLUTIONS to improve some of these things that you're complaining about — that would be an outstanding use of your time.  Buckminster Fuller said: "You never change things by fighting existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete."  I'd like to see you transform that pissed off energy into positive action.  Come on dude, I'm rooting for you! We'd all benefit from it.

Peace bro.


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General Discussion / Re: the U.S. EPA likes ICE over EVs
« on: June 17, 2021, 01:16:15 AM »
Job security!

The EV world is majority elite buyers ... We need to continue to transition to electric and nuclear but this takes time if you want to avoid chaos and social disruption. ... read a history book and take the effort to recognize patterns.

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Elite buyers — because the government hasn't backed & subsidized the EV industry enough to help Economies of Scale kick in, in that industry, as it has for the oil industry for many decades — with cost of production reduced & POINT-OF-PURCHASE rebate incentives, like Biden is considering, then all car buyers can take advantage of a government incentive to help them afford buying an EV & not just car buyers that can take advantage of a tax deduction.

Transition takes time — it really doesn't have to take this long (especially considering there is a climate crisis) — consider historic patterns like when the government led the country in the right direction, in directing manufacturers to contribute to winning WWII, RETOOLING their factories IN MONTHS, to produce very different products (going from manufacturing cars to planes/ships/tanks/etc.) — retooling from ICE to Electric vehicles is MUCH, MUCH LESS RETOOLING. 

Chaos and social disruption — like with the retooling to win WWII or the transition from horse and carriage to autos, there was no chaos (that's absurd) — disruptions are necessary sometimes, to keep humanity advancing (otherwise we'd still be living like cavemen), there've been disruptions throughout history and are necessary when the current situation is effing things up.

We don't have time to waste on thinking about excuses — our time needs to be spent on thinking of solutions like business models, creative financing, inventions, etc..

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Do not lay the bike down flat, or else do not expect the bike to be light and easy to get back up. See here.

-Don- Reno, NV
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Thanks for this input & the link!  Such good info, for when needed, I like it!!

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Thanks Crissa.  Guess I'll have to do that too.  :-\

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Crissa,
So what was the insurance company's resolution to the situation?  How did they overcome it?

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Has anyone had an insurance company classify their electric motorcycle as another model that's not correct, after giving them the VIN ?

If so, how did the insurance company resolve their underwriter's incorrect model classification in their system ?

My Zero S VIN comes up as an MX dirt bike for some of the brokers, except on the GEICO website, where it comes up as 'S SR'.  And AAA management decided to input 999cc in their 'Engine Size' quote question, even though they know I have an electric motorcycle.

Can anyone offer any helpful info ? 

Thanks


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General Discussion / Re: Motorcycle Insurance
« on: March 27, 2021, 06:19:02 AM »
Richard,
I live in Orange County, CA.  I checked with Progressive & they weren't the lowest quote.  The lowest quotes so far have been with Safeco Insurance, that 3 different insurance brokers used.  You may want to try Safeco, AAA, & GEICO website (the GEICO office I called gave me a quote more than twice as much as their website did, & there's a phone number to speak with someone at the end of the quote page on their website).

Just like you, my present (car) insurance company has increased my insurance the last couple of years, so I'm shopping around -- now that I've gotten other quotes for my car I see that they were almost twice as high as others. 

FYI - My Zero S VIN comes up as an MX dirt bike for some of the brokers (except on the GEICO website, where it comes up as 'S SR').  And AAA management input 999cc in their 'Engine Size' quote question, even though they know I have an electric motorcycle.

In case it can help anyone, I'll post the finalized quotes when they settle the classification of my Zero S in their underwriters' systems.

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General Discussion / Motorcycle Insurance
« on: March 25, 2021, 01:04:14 AM »
Hey all,
I just got my first electric motorcycle, a 2019 Zero S 14.4.  Can anyone recommend a good, LOW COST insurance company?  I checked with AAA already.
Thanks!

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Again, I get :  " An Error Has Occurred! "  " Your file is too large. The maximum attachment size allowed is 600 KB. "
when I try to post with pictures.  Can someone please let me what's going on ?  What I need to do to avoid this & successfully post with pics -- I see other posts with many pics.
Thanks

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The only real risk is the brakes.  Make sure no brake lines are pinched and to give each brake a good squeeze and shake when you bring it back upright ^-^

There shouldn't be air in them, but you never really know.

-Crissa

......PRACTICAL PURPSE DRIVEN DESIGNING -- important designing, finally!!  There are soo many vehicles that are soo homogenous, uugg.  And not safe enough.
I want one too, because it's so costly & time consuming to create such a vehicle on your own -- I have my own tandem seat, narrow 3-wheel, efficient, safer commuter vehicle design.  I appreciate the design of the Aptera.  Please post pics when you get yours & share your experience with it.   
I can't wait for all vehicles to be made BETTER -- they're not efficient or safe enough -- when they actually could be, if the manufacturers decided to do so.  I'm happy for you.   ;D

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The only real risk is the brakes.  Make sure no brake lines are pinched and to give each brake a good squeeze and shake when you bring it back upright ^-^

There shouldn't be air in them, but you never really know.

-Crissa

Yeah, brakes are the only components that I knew to be careful with & bleed them just in case there may be are in the lines afterward. 
Wow, I see you have a reservation for an Aptera!  What an awesome leap in auto tech & design!!!  REALLY designing for practical purposes

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Cool, I'm glad to know it's OK to transport it like this.  Thanks Brandon!
Have you transported them on their side?

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Hey everyone,

I'm about to purchase my first electric motorcycle, today hopefully.  I want to know if anyone has already transported one -- layed down on it's side -- in the back of an SUV.  It would be layed down for about 4 hours to get it home.  And there's another one that I'm also considering that's 7.5 hours away.

I'd love to ride them home, but one is a 13kWh & the other is a 14.4kWh.  They don't have Power Packs, Charge Packs, & they have stock chargers.

Anybody know if it's ok?

I looked at the online Zero manual & it recommends that the motorcycle be tied-down using
ratchet straps while it is being transported & has a drawing of a motorcycle that looks like it's upright.  I called a Zero dealer & their Zero tech said it should be ok.  I'll be careful to tighten the brake fluid reservoir caps & tape plastic bags on them in case they may leak.

Thanks!

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