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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: 3D printed parts discussion
« on: June 01, 2019, 09:20:15 AM »
DonTom, a friend of mine in Sacto has a Leaf which works for about 95% of his daily driving (but he only has ICE motos) and he said that when it is time to go to Reno to see his grandkids, the ICE car gets gassed up, the Leaf just doesn't work .  I see he's not the only one with a range issue for that trip.

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General Discussion / Re: Motorcycle Aerodynamics
« on: September 25, 2018, 09:35:10 AM »
FWIW Guzzi did not have problems with stability from their dustbin fairings.  People who said "let me cobble something together that looks sort of like that" and who didn't have a wind tunnel and the understanding of how to use it did have stability issues.

From what I've read the FIM ban on the full streamlining was part of an overall "let's break the power of the factory teams" move.  "Dustbins are dangerous" was not true then and not true now.  "Some dustbins that are poorly designed are dangerous" was true then and now.

The FIM ban was a case of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

Very low drag vehicles can be less stable than those with higher drag.  There's a reason why at Bonneville they don't run if crosswinds are higher than several miles an hour.  Those vehicles are not meant for real world road use.



shows that a Creasey Voyager with large amounts of bodywork meant to give improved mileage and comfort from better aerodynamics can deal with disruptive side winds.

As with many things in motorcycling, with aerodynamics there's a lot of what "everyone knows" that isn't actually true.

Also, as Tony Foale elucidates in his book, you have to be cautious with applying 4-wheel automotive aerodynamics to two-wheel vehicles.  The latter lean, the former don't, and the chassis dynamics can be quite different.

cheers,
Michael

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Maximum rated carrying capacity
« on: September 16, 2018, 10:31:51 PM »
Keep in mind that the passenger's added mass is both high and well towards the back of the bike.  Steering can be degraded if a lot of load is shifted off the front wheel and that is usually worse under acceleration.  The Zero wheelbase is (per their website) about 55" so it will be a bit more sensitive to this than a bike with a longer wheelbase.

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Courtney, I think BMW did a good job on the C Evolution, there are lots of nice/clever features.  I spent some time going through a parts fiche to find details on the design.

But unless the OP wants to copy some of those clever features we're probably getting a bit off his topic.

cheers,
Michael

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A concern that I've not seen mentioned that seems to be a common point of discussion on many marque forums is making it easy to have your vehicle fit someone outside the normal range of physique.

One riding position is not going to be good for everyone from 5'2" tall and 100 pounds (including gear) to 6' 2" and 250 (including gear).  Some people have very long torsos and short legs, others are long legged/long armed with a more standard torso.

Have multiple positions for the foot pegs on the stock mounting plates or handle bar risers that have the bar offset from the bolts that attach the riser to the front suspension can allow the risers to be reversed to move the bar closer/farther away.  It sounds like you've got a lot of in-house CNC capacity, maybe you could offer a few options on the foot peg plates or bar risers that would be normal dealer stock and used to tailor the bike to the purchaser.  On seats consider having different sets of seat brackets to allow some height or angle adjustment.

You can have your standard, large production quantity part be designed for the standard 90th percentile potential purchaser, but with your own CNC mill it is easy to have a few parts on each pallet be made to the alternate designs so you can have some available when needed.

I get concerned with the number of people I see buying (or cobbling together on their own) alternate suspension links to try and get the bike low enough so they aren't on tiptoe at a stop, because many of those people clearly have no clue that what they are doing could dangerously impact their ground clearance, wheel/fender clearance, or handling.

Also have a wide variety of people test the seat, because a lot of bikes seem to come with really poor seats.  There are people who make a living redoing seats so you don't start squirming in 15 minutes, it isn't rocket science.  And once you get a good seat that fits most bottoms, if you can make the seat adjustable for height or fore/aft position then the customer isn't POd because they've got to go out and spend $400 on their new bike to get the seat redone so they can stand to ride the bike.

The motor driveshaft is the pivot point for the swing arm so the belt maintains a constant tension and there is no on/off throttle snatch.

Courtney, you may want to take another look at your BMW.  The swing arm pivot is on the outside of the motor case so the motor moves up and down with the swing arm as on many scooters.  In this photo you can see the pivot tube at the vertex of the L-shaped bracket bolted on to the battery box/chassis.



cheers,
Michael

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Electric Motorcycle News / A new style of motor
« on: July 20, 2018, 10:20:07 PM »
http://www.machinedesign.com/motion-control/axial-flux-motors-and-generators-shrink-size-weight

It mentions motorcycles and uses a BMW i3 motor in a comparison with the new design.  It sounds very promising, but these things often do.

cheers,
Michael

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