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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Odd charging behavior since the last software update
« on: May 22, 2018, 07:14:45 PM »
Thanks a bunch, y'all.
So I did a bunch of short trips at 00% - carrying a charging cable and checking voltage before and after - and then mid-ride it popped back up to 89%. So I guess this was unrelated to the new firmware - hopefully just a one-off glitch.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Odd charging behavior since the last software update
« on: May 21, 2018, 09:33:31 PM »

Concise question:
Do people with The Firmware Bug find their SOC reads "100%" when fully charged to ~116 V, or is anyone getting some lower number?
I.e. is my problem something else?

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Odd charging behavior since the last software update
« on: May 19, 2018, 10:16:47 PM »
I finally managed to get the bike logs. The battery logs look reasonable, but here's where the MBB lost its little mind. The PackSOC numbers go from 33% to 82% then 0% to 15%.
(BTW that ??? should be three question marks.)

  07480                       0   DEBUG: Reset: Power-On, External   
 07481                       0   Power On                   Onboard Charger
 07482                       0   Calex 720W Charger 0 Connected   
 07483                       0   Calex 1200W Charger 1 Connected   
 07484                       0   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from None mode to Charging mode   
 07485                       0   Module 00                  vmod: 0V, batt curr: 0A
 07486                       0   Module 01                  vmod: 0V, batt curr: 0A
 07487                       1   Sevcon Turned On   
 07488                       1   WARNING: Max allowed voltage difference is 500mV   
 07489                       1   Module 00 CAN Link Up   
 07490                       1   Module 00                  serial: 16sg2527,  vmod: 101.27V
 07491     05/16/2018 21:22:40   Module 01 CAN Link Up   
 07492     05/16/2018 21:22:40   Module 01                  serial: 16sg2533,  vmod: 101.324V
 07493     05/16/2018 21:23:53   Sevcon CAN Link Up   
 07494     05/16/2018 21:23:54   DEBUG: Sevcon Contactor Drive ON.   
 07495     05/16/2018 21:23:54   Module 00                  vmod: 101.259 maxsys: 101.383 minsys: 101.037 diff: 0.346 vcap: 89.937 prechg: 88%
 07496     05/16/2018 21:23:54   Module 01                  vmod: 101.319 maxsys: 101.383 minsys: 101.037 diff: 0.346 vcap: 89.937 prechg: 88%
 07497     05/16/2018 21:23:54   DEBUG: Module 01 Contactor is now Closed   
 07498     05/16/2018 21:23:54   INFO:  Enabling Calex 720W Charger 0   
 07499     05/16/2018 21:23:54   INFO:  Enabling Calex 1200W Charger 1   
 07500     05/16/2018 21:23:54   INFO:  Enabling External Chg 0 Charger 2   
 07501     05/16/2018 21:23:54   INFO:  Enabling External Chg 1 Charger 3   
 07502     05/16/2018 21:23:54   DEBUG: Module 00 Contactor is now Closed   
 07503     05/16/2018 21:23:58   0x31 0x01 0xb2 0x0c 0x3a ???   
 07504     05/16/2018 21:23:58   Low Chassis Isolation      11 KOhms to cell 12
 07505     05/16/2018 21:24:01   Charging                   PackTemp: h 14C, l 14C, AmbTemp: 13C, PackSOC: 33%, Vpack:101.664V, BattAmps:  -4, Mods: 11, MbbChgEn: Yes, BmsChgEn: No
 07506     05/16/2018 21:34:01   Charging                   PackTemp: h 14C, l 14C, AmbTemp: 15C, PackSOC: 32%, Vpack:102.201V, BattAmps:  -3, Mods: 11, MbbChgEn: Yes, BmsChgEn: No
 07507     05/16/2018 21:44:01   Charging                   PackTemp: h 15C, l 14C, AmbTemp: 17C, PackSOC: 31%, Vpack:102.425V, BattAmps:  -3, Mods: 11, MbbChgEn: Yes, BmsChgEn: No
 07508     05/16/2018 21:54:01   Charging                   PackTemp: h 15C, l 14C, AmbTemp: 19C, PackSOC: 31%, Vpack:102.623V, BattAmps:  -3, Mods: 11, MbbChgEn: Yes, BmsChgEn: No
 07509     05/16/2018 22:04:01   Charging                   PackTemp: h 15C, l 15C, AmbTemp: 20C, PackSOC: 32%, Vpack:102.796V, BattAmps:  -5, Mods: 11, MbbChgEn: Yes, BmsChgEn: No
 07510     05/16/2018 22:14:01   Charging                   PackTemp: h 16C, l 15C, AmbTemp: 21C, PackSOC: 34%, Vpack:103.003V, BattAmps:  -4, Mods: 11, MbbChgEn: Yes, BmsChgEn: No
 07511     05/16/2018 22:24:01   Charging                   PackTemp: h 16C, l 15C, AmbTemp: 22C, PackSOC: 36%, Vpack:103.176V, BattAmps:  -4, Mods: 11, MbbChgEn: Yes, BmsChgEn: No
 07512     05/16/2018 22:34:01   Charging                   PackTemp: h 16C, l 16C, AmbTemp: 22C, PackSOC: 38%, Vpack:103.408V, BattAmps:  -3, Mods: 11, MbbChgEn: Yes, BmsChgEn: No
 07513     05/16/2018 22:44:01   Charging                   PackTemp: h 17C, l 16C, AmbTemp: 23C, PackSOC: 41%, Vpack:103.382V, BattAmps:  -3, Mods: 11, MbbChgEn: Yes, BmsChgEn: No
 07514     05/16/2018 22:54:01   Charging                   PackTemp: h 17C, l 16C, AmbTemp: 23C, PackSOC: 44%, Vpack:103.666V, BattAmps:  -4, Mods: 11, MbbChgEn: Yes, BmsChgEn: No
 07515     05/16/2018 23:04:01   Charging                   PackTemp: h 18C, l 16C, AmbTemp: 24C, PackSOC: 46%, Vpack:103.886V, BattAmps:  -4, Mods: 11, MbbChgEn: Yes, BmsChgEn: No
 07516     05/16/2018 23:14:01   Charging                   PackTemp: h 18C, l 17C, AmbTemp: 24C, PackSOC: 49%, Vpack: 104.17V, BattAmps:  -4, Mods: 11, MbbChgEn: Yes, BmsChgEn: No
 07517     05/16/2018 23:24:01   Charging                   PackTemp: h 19C, l 17C, AmbTemp: 24C, PackSOC: 51%, Vpack:104.559V, BattAmps:  -4, Mods: 11, MbbChgEn: Yes, BmsChgEn: No
 07518     05/16/2018 23:34:01   Charging                   PackTemp: h 19C, l 17C, AmbTemp: 25C, PackSOC: 54%, Vpack:104.872V, BattAmps:  -3, Mods: 11, MbbChgEn: Yes, BmsChgEn: No
 07519     05/16/2018 23:44:01   Charging                   PackTemp: h 20C, l 18C, AmbTemp: 25C, PackSOC: 57%, Vpack:105.275V, BattAmps:  -4, Mods: 11, MbbChgEn: Yes, BmsChgEn: No
 07520     05/16/2018 23:54:01   Charging                   PackTemp: h 20C, l 18C, AmbTemp: 25C, PackSOC: 60%, Vpack:105.786V, BattAmps:  -4, Mods: 11, MbbChgEn: Yes, BmsChgEn: No
07521     05/17/2018 00:04:01   Charging                   PackTemp: h 20C, l 18C, AmbTemp: 25C, PackSOC: 63%, Vpack:106.268V, BattAmps:  -4, Mods: 11, MbbChgEn: Yes, BmsChgEn: No
 07522     05/17/2018 00:14:01   Charging                   PackTemp: h 21C, l 18C, AmbTemp: 25C, PackSOC: 65%, Vpack:106.838V, BattAmps:  -3, Mods: 11, MbbChgEn: Yes, BmsChgEn: No
 07523     05/17/2018 00:24:01   Charging                   PackTemp: h 21C, l 19C, AmbTemp: 26C, PackSOC: 68%, Vpack:107.415V, BattAmps:  -4, Mods: 11, MbbChgEn: Yes, BmsChgEn: No
 07524     05/17/2018 00:34:01   Charging                   PackTemp: h 21C, l 19C, AmbTemp: 25C, PackSOC: 71%, Vpack: 108.02V, BattAmps:  -4, Mods: 11, MbbChgEn: Yes, BmsChgEn: No
 07525     05/17/2018 00:44:01   Charging                   PackTemp: h 21C, l 19C, AmbTemp: 26C, PackSOC: 73%, Vpack:108.582V, BattAmps:  -3, Mods: 11, MbbChgEn: Yes, BmsChgEn: No
 07526     05/17/2018 00:54:01   Charging                   PackTemp: h 22C, l 19C, AmbTemp: 26C, PackSOC: 75%, Vpack:109.067V, BattAmps:  -4, Mods: 11, MbbChgEn: Yes, BmsChgEn: No
 07527     05/17/2018 01:04:01   Charging                   PackTemp: h 22C, l 19C, AmbTemp: 27C, PackSOC: 77%, Vpack:109.581V, BattAmps:  -4, Mods: 11, MbbChgEn: Yes, BmsChgEn: No
 07528     05/17/2018 01:14:01   Charging                   PackTemp: h 22C, l 19C, AmbTemp: 24C, PackSOC: 79%, Vpack:110.009V, BattAmps:  -4, Mods: 11, MbbChgEn: Yes, BmsChgEn: No
 07529     05/17/2018 01:24:01   Charging                   PackTemp: h 22C, l 19C, AmbTemp: 25C, PackSOC: 82%, Vpack:110.531V, BattAmps:  -4, Mods: 11, MbbChgEn: Yes, BmsChgEn: No
 07530     05/17/2018 01:34:01   Charging                   PackTemp: h 22C, l 19C, AmbTemp: 26C, PackSOC:  0%, Vpack: 111.08V, BattAmps:  -3, Mods: 11, MbbChgEn: Yes, BmsChgEn: No
 07531     05/17/2018 01:44:01   Charging                   PackTemp: h 22C, l 20C, AmbTemp: 26C, PackSOC:  1%, Vpack:111.488V, BattAmps:  -4, Mods: 11, MbbChgEn: Yes, BmsChgEn: No
 07532     05/17/2018 01:54:01   Charging                   PackTemp: h 22C, l 20C, AmbTemp: 26C, PackSOC:  3%, Vpack: 112.07V, BattAmps:  -4, Mods: 11, MbbChgEn: Yes, BmsChgEn: No
 07533     05/17/2018 02:04:01   Charging                   PackTemp: h 22C, l 20C, AmbTemp: 26C, PackSOC:  5%, Vpack:112.669V, BattAmps:  -4, Mods: 11, MbbChgEn: Yes, BmsChgEn: No
 07534     05/17/2018 02:14:01   Charging                   PackTemp: h 23C, l 20C, AmbTemp: 26C, PackSOC:  7%, Vpack:113.171V, BattAmps:  -4, Mods: 11, MbbChgEn: Yes, BmsChgEn: No
 07535     05/17/2018 02:24:01   Charging                   PackTemp: h 23C, l 20C, AmbTemp: 26C, PackSOC:  8%, Vpack:113.744V, BattAmps:  -3, Mods: 11, MbbChgEn: Yes, BmsChgEn: No
 07536     05/17/2018 02:34:01   Charging                   PackTemp: h 23C, l 20C, AmbTemp: 26C, PackSOC: 12%, Vpack:114.228V, BattAmps:  -3, Mods: 11, MbbChgEn: Yes, BmsChgEn: No
 07537     05/17/2018 02:44:01   Charging                   PackTemp: h 23C, l 20C, AmbTemp: 28C, PackSOC: 15%, Vpack:114.676V, BattAmps:  -4, Mods: 11, MbbChgEn: Yes, BmsChgEn: No
 07538     05/17/2018 02:54:01   Charging                   PackTemp: h 23C, l 20C, AmbTemp: 27C, PackSOC: 15%, Vpack:115.434V, BattAmps:  -4, Mods: 11, MbbChgEn: Yes, BmsChgEn: No
 07539     05/17/2018 03:04:01   Charging                   PackTemp: h 23C, l 20C, AmbTemp: 28C, PackSOC: 15%, Vpack:115.951V, BattAmps:  -4, Mods: 11, MbbChgEn: Yes, BmsChgEn: No
 07540     05/17/2018 03:14:01   Charging                   PackTemp: h 23C, l 20C, AmbTemp: 28C, PackSOC: 15%, Vpack:116.628V, BattAmps:  -4, Mods: 11, MbbChgEn: Yes, BmsChgEn: No
 07541     05/17/2018 03:19:25   Entering Charge Standby Mode   
 07542     05/17/2018 03:19:25   INFO:  Disabling Calex 720W Charger 0   
 07543     05/17/2018 03:19:25   INFO:  Disabling Calex 1200W Charger 1   
 07544     05/17/2018 03:19:25   INFO:  Disabling External Chg 0 Charger 2   
 07545     05/17/2018 03:19:25   INFO:  Disabling External Chg 1 Charger 3   
 07546     05/17/2018 03:19:30   Module 00                  vmod: 116.695V, batt curr: 0A
 07547     05/17/2018 03:19:30   Module 01                  vmod: 116.624V, batt curr: 0A
 07548     05/17/2018 03:19:30   Sevcon Turned Off   
 07549     05/17/2018 03:19:30   DEBUG: Module 01 Contactor is now Open   
 07550     05/17/2018 03:19:30   DEBUG: Module 00 Contactor is now Open   
 07551     05/17/2018 09:08:03   Calex 720W Charger 0 Disconnected   
 07552     05/17/2018 09:08:03   Calex 1200W Charger 1 Disconnected   
 07553     05/17/2018 09:08:03   Leaving Charge Standby Mode   
 07554     05/17/2018 09:08:03   Power Off                  Onboard Charger
 07555     05/17/2018 09:08:03   Module 00                  vmod: 115.86V, batt curr: 0A
 07556     05/17/2018 09:08:03   Module 01                  vmod: 115.947V, batt curr: 0A

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Odd charging behavior since the last software update
« on: May 18, 2018, 06:54:39 AM »
In January, my two-brick 2016 FXS had a charger warranty-replaced and got the troublesome firmware update.

After a full charge, the state of charge dropped 30-40% faster than typical (not really like the n-1 bricks scenario). The last few charge cycles it seemed like it was starting to re-learn its capacity (e.g. last night it had gone 62 city miles and showed 27% left).

But this time I plugged it in, and this morning it read only 11% - but with the green charge-complete light on. Before, it always said "100%" even if I wasn't sure what 100 meant. Is this something other people have seen?

It is showing none of the symptoms like when the old charger died (charges on and off, blinking red light, crackly noises, error code 15). I tried a few times to download the battery logs, but it wouldn't stay connected for more than a minute or two.

Then I saw that the app says it's at 117V! Could it really be all charged up?

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: New Firmware update?
« on: February 04, 2018, 03:50:15 AM »
Quote from: brose on January 31, 2018, 10:09:37 AM
the issue of the battery behaving as if it had half the battery capacity


Hey, this is what I have!

A couple weeks ago, I got my charger warranty-replaced (good experience at rahns.com Abington MA btw), and I got the charging firmware update. I wasn't sure which thing caused it.

Is there a thread about it?
http://electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=7625.0

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Parts, Mods And Hacks / Re: 2015 DS Mirror specs
« on: June 11, 2017, 09:46:45 AM »
Quote from: AsherEscher on May 30, 2017, 08:25:15 PM
w00t me and a friend rebuilt the mirror gOOD ENOUGH - and now I have 21 days to get a ball on the end of my brake lever - guess it broke off at some point :D
Passed - I put the pieces back together with some SteelStik.
/END THREAD HIJACK

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Parts, Mods And Hacks / Re: 2015 DS Mirror specs
« on: May 30, 2017, 08:25:15 PM »
Quote from: AsherEscher on May 28, 2017, 08:04:13 AM
The internet is beginning to convince me that Yamaha and Ducati usually have left-threaded right-hand-side mirrors, opposite of our left-threaded left side. Yamaha-style extenders are working for people here, but maybe not Yamaha-style replacement mirrors.

My FXS definitely has a left-threaded left-hand-side mirror - with a year-old, very-clean, centered, vertical crack that's only mildly distorting. It completely slipped my mind that I would need to replace it before inspection deadline, which is Wednesday. I had no luck today at the local Yamaha and Ducati dealers.

hEY if anyone in the greater Boston area would like to swap left-side mirrors with me for a couple days, I would be super duper grateful.


w00t me and a friend rebuilt the mirror gOOD ENOUGH - and now I have 21 days to get a ball on the end of my brake lever - guess it broke off at some point :D

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Parts, Mods And Hacks / Re: 2015 DS Mirror specs
« on: May 28, 2017, 10:54:25 AM »
(Speaking of other Zeroers around Boston - I saw my first non-mine FXS in the wild today. I thought "NOOO THEY STOLE MY BIKE")

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Parts, Mods And Hacks / Re: 2015 DS Mirror specs
« on: May 28, 2017, 08:04:13 AM »
Quote from: BrianTRice on January 28, 2017, 01:09:41 PM
They're Yahama style, M10x1.25 with counter threading on the left (I think).
http://zeromanual.com/index.php/Common_Modifications#Third-Party_Mirrors


Brian, thanks for the link.


The internet is beginning to convince me that Yamaha and Ducati usually have left-threaded right-hand-side mirrors, opposite of our left-threaded left side. Yamaha-style extenders are working for people here, but maybe not Yamaha-style replacement mirrors.


My FXS definitely has a left-threaded left-hand-side mirror - with a year-old, very-clean, centered, vertical crack that's only mildly distorting. It completely slipped my mind that I would need to replace it before inspection deadline, which is Wednesday. I had no luck today at the local Yamaha and Ducati dealers.


hEY if anyone in the greater Boston area would like to swap left-side mirrors with me for a couple days, I would be super duper grateful.


(I want to give http://www.rahns.com all my business, but it is too far to go on a work day. If they even have one.)

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Wet Seat, 2016 FX
« on: March 18, 2017, 09:52:23 AM »
The seat on my 2016 FXS does take on some water when it rains. The seams look tight except for the way they form a bit of a ridge where water pools up and soaks right in. Then it seems dry until you sit on it.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Watts per mile
« on: December 12, 2016, 12:14:15 AM »

2016 FXS 6.5
Per app: 57 Wh/m
odo 1408 mi
since June 2016
rider + gear 150#
temps 90F - 30F (so far)
ungaraged
100% city
99% stock
I get just about one mile per percentage point (a little less at low temps).


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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Book Review of Zero Below Zero
« on: December 11, 2016, 07:26:25 AM »

Cool, thanks.


Hey, if anyone finds a plastic cap that press-fits pretty well onto the ignition area of an FXS, I'd be super-interested in that, too. I couldn't get the key in at all, this morning.


(It was probably 25F when I microwaved one of those flannel bags of feed corn. A few minutes with that loosened it up enough to get the key in, which let me get it off the street into the back yard, etc.)

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Cold weather range question
« on: December 11, 2016, 07:13:37 AM »
Oh, fun. I was thinking either non-powered or DC like this
https://www.adafruit.com/product/1481
but I like the size of yours.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Unofficial Zero Owners Manual Logo
« on: December 11, 2016, 07:10:52 AM »
and their other font.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Unofficial Zero Owners Manual Logo
« on: December 11, 2016, 06:17:36 AM »
I know we're not using their font, but I couldn't resist.


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