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kingcharles

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Re: Is it junk?
« Reply #60 on: February 13, 2015, 04:04:40 AM »

If it was this blog you are talking about:
http://zerods.blogspot.com/

Then I was the other reader  :D
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Re: Is it junk?
« Reply #61 on: February 13, 2015, 10:08:11 AM »

If it was this blog you are talking about:
http://zerods.blogspot.com/

Then I was the other reader  :D

Hi Charles,

Yes, that's the one :D  Jason is my brother.

That it is my bike now.

Cam 8)
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Re: Is it junk?
« Reply #62 on: February 13, 2015, 02:03:26 PM »

Are you going to blog about getting it back on the road?
You should do that!
You will have at least the same readers as your brother Is guess [emoji1]
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Re: Is it junk?
« Reply #63 on: February 13, 2015, 02:54:03 PM »

Are you going to blog about getting it back on the road?
You should do that!
You will have at least the same readers as your brother Is guess [emoji1]

I told Jason that he can blog about the restore.  I will report to him and he can tell the world if he so desires.  Last time I spoke, he said he was looking for his password, I told him to just ask the system to send him a new one.   He was interested in blogging on.  He did say to be fair that he hadn't stopped blogging due to the death of the bike.  The bike died about a year after he had stopped reporting, because there was nothing new interesting to say at the time.  It wasn't meant as a "whitewash" of any issues with the bike...  He also said that Zero had been as helpful as they could be, when at the time there was no longer any support for Zero in Australia.  That has changed now they are back.  I will be interested in their level of assistance.  I will either tell you guys here or let Jason rant on about it himself... he likes to do that :D


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Re: Is it junk?
« Reply #64 on: March 17, 2015, 09:58:03 PM »

Honestly - yes, it's junk. I started having problems with my 2012 Zero s 200 miles after I bought it. I have been waiting for a replacement motor for 6 MONTHS at this point. The bike has 2,000 miles on it and it's completely unrideable. There is obviously a problem with these motors and Zero is for sure hiding a serious problem with this model and year.  I live in VA - I don't ride in the cold. The bike lurches and loses power every single time I ride it. I was almost run down when trying to make a turn when the bikes power completely stopped when I was going 15 MPH. I have ZERO interest in working with this company anymore and will be selling this POS IF I EVER CAN GET THESE SHADY ASSHATS to ever replace the part thats been defective basically since I bought the bike. Comcast has more scruples than this company.  They have  lied to me for 3 months about when my part is coming in - every month it's just "2 more weeks." Nothing. Then more nothing. Then more nothing. If they had a shred of decency they would refund my money in full. But clearly they have no decency. I will be filing a class action suit soon against the company if they don't completely take this junk back and give me a full refund. Wow it was a great 200 miles then total unadulterated crap.   
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Re: Is it junk?
« Reply #65 on: March 18, 2015, 01:00:02 AM »

Hello

I had the same problem with only 7000km and a year
Currently I equip the Maschiene on Brammo parts to
Anyone who wants to can also have a few photos
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Re: Is it junk?
« Reply #66 on: March 18, 2015, 09:29:34 AM »

i was informed last week by the dealership where my bike has been for over 5 months that the new motor has arrived and that they would be changing it right away. It's been a week so far and no message from the dealer. I can pull the motor out in 20 minutes, and install it in the same amount of time. I'm guessing they have to time it, that must take a few days.
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Re: Is it junk?
« Reply #67 on: March 18, 2015, 06:49:49 PM »

The garage here in the UK that has my 2012 have also received my replacement motor, which is apparently redesigned based on the 2013 model.  Because of the different configuration, they were unable to fit it to my bike yesterday and are contacting Zero for support ...
Despite my protests, I am paying most of the cost of the motor and labor.  I have submitted a request to the regulation agency to classify it as a recall.  No word back from them yet.

Wes
2012 S ZF9, 2500 miles
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Re: Is it junk?
« Reply #68 on: March 20, 2015, 03:23:04 PM »

I really wanted a Zero, I even put my actual bike on sold, but now i may go backwards. I see a lot of little problems on this forum, and, as i have no dealer near my home, i do not want to rent a tiny truck or find a car and a trailer, and do 200km every time something as to be fix.
Also, when you see the price you buy the bike and that some here have a dead bike after a few years, it cools me down a lot! I can't afford to buy a bike thinking "well, ok if it dies in 6 years, i'll buy another or something else." I need to know i can sell it after a few years of use.
So, i am still in reflexion, but not in the good way now... and that's too bad because i've tried it, and i think it can be fantastic, but it scares me a bit too...
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Re: Is it junk?
« Reply #69 on: March 20, 2015, 09:11:57 PM »

Zorgalouf: Just keep in mind that most Zero owners are very happy with their choice and don't really need to post that they are happy.  But if you do happen to own a bike with problems, you are looking for solutions and may also want some sympathy, and those are the type of posts that you will see on most any product forum (BMW forums come to mind, but it is certainly true for all motorcycle forums).  There may only be one or two percent of the owners having problems, but you will see those owners posting 90% of the time in an effort to either seek help from members of the forum to resolve their issues, or perhaps in the hope that their complaints will pressure the company into helping them, or at least making changes to their processes and designs in the future.
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Re: Is it junk?
« Reply #70 on: March 20, 2015, 09:32:18 PM »

Yeah, i know but imagine that i have bad luck and that a bad bike is for me? It is a (little) risk that i might take but i am really putting this in the balance.
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Re: Is it junk?
« Reply #71 on: March 21, 2015, 04:05:20 AM »

Yeah, i know but imagine that i have bad luck and that a bad bike is for me? It is a (little) risk that i might take but i am really putting this in the balance.

I hear you Zorgalouf.  I have always had problems with anything electrical (toasters, radios, TVs, computers, telephones, those sort of things).  When I look at them they they just stop working. So I try to keep my eyes off of my Zero and so far it has kept running.   ;)
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Re: Is it junk?
« Reply #72 on: March 21, 2015, 09:18:30 PM »

Richard's comment got me thinking that we need more quantitative information about Zero demographics: see http://electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=4482.0

Zorgalouf, if we collect enough statistics, you might find the results useful for your decision.
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Re: Is it junk?
« Reply #73 on: March 22, 2015, 03:32:03 AM »

Done. 

And speaking of Triumphs, my Bonneville has been very reliable, except that I have had to replace the front brake disc four times due to warping.  Three times by Triumph under warranty and once on my dime and my labor. Every brand of motorcycle can have its problems and (just like people) none are without their faults.   ;)
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Re: Is it junk?
« Reply #74 on: March 22, 2015, 06:52:56 AM »

True Richard, that every brand can have its problems.

But the history of motorcycles is full of examples of some bikes that, due to aspects of design and  / or manufacturing have deserved reputations for either being very reliable, or being piles of rubbish. For example, some engines are inherently more fragile than others (compare a bevel Ducati with, say, an early Kawasaki 900 /1000 engine). And some manufacturers, at times, have had serious problems with build quality (the story of  British bikes through the 1970s, perhaps?).

It'll be interesting to see, as time goes by, where Zero falls out on this continuum.
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