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Author Topic: NHTSA recalls give us a glimpse into Zero street US motorcycle sales  (Read 4983 times)

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Zero has issued 4 recalls in the last few years for its street motorcycles. NHTSA does not cover off-road motorcycls, so pre-2011 X / MX, 2011 X and MX without street kits, and 2012 MX are not covered.

Late 2009 / Early 2010 misaligned brake pads - 160 total S and DS bikes recalled
2011 / 2012 brake light switch - 450 S, DS, X, XU, XD/MXD (street kits for X/MX) bikes recalled
2012 BMS weather-proofing - 254 S, DS, X, XU, XU-LSM (low speed model for canada) bikes recalled
2012 S/DS Encoder Drift - 315 S, DS bikes recalled
2012 / 2013 controller glitch - 667 XU, S, DS, FX bikes recalled

The 2009 S and DS bikes were announced in April 2009, there were significant delays [1 2] bringing them to market. The recall covers bikes produced from September 2009 through March 2010, which is probably mostly the 2010 bikes.

160 S, DS bikes produced in the first 3 months of 2010 + a bit of 2009.

196 bikes produced in 2011 (450 - 254).

254 bikes produced in the first 6 months of 2012.

315 S, DS bikes produced in the first 9 months of 2012.

352 2012 XU, 2013 S / DS / FX / XU bikes produced. (assuming production of 2012 bikes stopped in Q4 2012, likely)

Sales are low, but they do appear to be accelerating. It's laughable now to look back at Zero in 2009 and their intentions to sell 600 bikes in 2009 and 6000 bikes in 2010.

I'm also not sure if these recalls cover non-US bikes.
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Re: NHTSA recalls give us a glimpse into Zero street motorcycle sales
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2012, 06:15:18 AM »

What they don't want to do is over-produce, then have a bunch of 2012s around when the 2013s come out or they might have to discount the 2012s. I will tell you who is good at only producing what they can sell...Triumph. I bought a Street Triple r a couple days ago. Alamo Triumph in San Antonio had 1...a purple one. I had to drive to Austin to pick up the last one Lone Star had. That leaves 1 purple Triple for a service area of over 3 million people. Nobody can accuse Triumph of over-production. You could make a good argument they under-produced though.
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Re: NHTSA recalls give us a glimpse into Zero street motorcycle sales
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2012, 06:42:27 AM »

Not sure if these are the complete numbers. So far I have not received the usual recall letter for the brake switch. Or is this a different kind of recall ?
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Re: NHTSA recalls give us a glimpse into Zero street motorcycle sales
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2012, 03:02:35 PM »

The Transport Canada road safety recall database shows 44 2009/2010 S and DS models being affected by the brake recall. Not sure if that's in addition to or covered by the NHTSA numbers...
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Re: NHTSA recalls give us a glimpse into Zero street motorcycle sales
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2012, 06:06:42 PM »

Good point craigq. Probably these are only US sales. One of the recalls does mention a XU-LSM, which is only referred to by the canadian Zero site.

manlytom - I haven't received a recall letter for the brake switch either.
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Re: NHTSA recalls give us a glimpse into Zero street US motorcycle sales
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2012, 11:37:05 PM »

Neither have I received any letters for my 2010 or 2012 DS's except for the front brake mount change on the 2010 DS.
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Re: NHTSA recalls give us a glimpse into Zero street US motorcycle sales
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2012, 03:37:57 AM »

The recall for brake switch is not for all motorcycles.

My dealer has some recalls of his sold bikes but mine has no brake recall (DS 2012).

But the BMS recall received me today.
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Re: NHTSA recalls give us a glimpse into Zero street US motorcycle sales
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2012, 01:41:32 AM »

Revived my recall in yesterday's mail 7/20/2012.
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Re: NHTSA recalls give us a glimpse into Zero street US motorcycle sales
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2012, 10:14:23 AM »

My '12 DS ZF6 got both recalls last week.  My "local" dealer is 35 miles away...  depending how many chargers he has it could take all day to R&R the BMS board and then fully recharge the thing...  logistics are a bear sometimes!
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Re: NHTSA recalls give us a glimpse into Zero street US motorcycle sales
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2012, 11:46:31 AM »

My Spanish dealer comfirmed the BMS recall this week too. No replacement day clarified yet though.
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Re: NHTSA recalls give us a glimpse into Zero street US motorcycle sales
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2012, 10:54:45 PM »

I got wind of the recall the evening of July 13, called the dealer the morning of the 14th -- to learn they just got the note from Zero that very day. After a few minutes being on hold while they read up on it, I'm told parts won't arrive until the 30th, at which time they will call me back if needed. I hope the other stuff I ordered will come in too.
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Re: NHTSA recalls give us a glimpse into Zero street US motorcycle sales
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2012, 04:42:26 AM »

I received both recall notices for my 2012 Zero S last week while I was up in Washington attending a BMW motorcycle rally.  I need to make an appointment with my dealer to make repairs. I will post how long it took for them to perform the work when I get it done.

I just made an appointment to have the recalls performed at my dealer this Saturday. I hope they have the repair kits by then. I also hope they have a new turn signal relay, which has been on order for the past month. My dealer said he was going to call Zero this afternoon and make sure the parts would be at the shop by Saturday. I'll be posting on Saturday afternoon to let you know what, if anything, happened and how long it took.
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I only got the one for the BMS, not the brake. My brake light engages pretty late, particularly on the rear, but it's not a big problem.
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Re: NHTSA recalls give us a glimpse into Zero street US motorcycle sales
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2012, 10:14:44 AM »

I now have both recall notices for my 2012 DS but Harlan (Holly Elect) doesn't have the kits in stock yet.
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Re: NHTSA recalls give us a glimpse into Zero street US motorcycle sales
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2012, 04:01:00 AM »

I just had both recalls performed at my retail dealer today.  My bike was in the shop for 4 hours, but that included them replacing my turn signal flasher relay, in addition to the BMS board and the stop light switch.  They had to pull a flasher unit off of one of the bikes in their showroom and install it on my bike, as Zero had not sent the replacement part in time for my service appointment (which I made two days ago).  Everything is working great now.   :)
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