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We don't like giving money to the gas companies.

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They are good for the enviorment.

2 (9.1%)

They have a lot of torque.

3 (13.6%)

They are something different.

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We enjoy all the hassles, such as waiting to charge if we can find a place.

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Less Maintenace.

2 (9.1%)

No engine heat on hot days.

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Being able to charge up at home instead of going to gas stations.

3 (13.6%)

They are very quiet-no noise.

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All of the above.

9 (40.9%)

None of the above, give reasons below.

1 (4.5%)

Total Members Voted: 22

Voting closed: December 10, 2022, 11:57:00 AM

[Richard230]

It will happen faster once the range gets increased and the price drops to a more affordable level.

Range doesn't need to be increased. We only need more places to charge up when out in the middle of nowhere.


-Don-  Auburn, CA

Not in the eyes of current ICE riders without EV experience.  i have two long-time ICE riding friends who say they would never buy an electric motorcycle unless it will travel at least 200 miles at 75 mph. Recharging during their ride is just not something they are thinking about right now. That sort of thinking comes later, after you first buy an electric motorcycle and then understand how they work and how you will use it. But first you have to get ICE owners in the saddle and that is influenced by both price and advertised range.

[Stonewolf]

It will happen faster once the range gets increased and the price drops to a more affordable level.

Range doesn't need to be increased. We only need more places to charge up when out in the middle of nowhere.


-Don-  Auburn, CA

Not in the eyes of current ICE riders without EV experience.  i have two long-time ICE riding friends who say they would never buy an electric motorcycle unless it will travel at least 200 miles at 75 mph. Recharging during their ride is just not something they are thinking about right now. That sort of thinking comes later, after you first buy an electric motorcycle and then understand how they work and how you will use it. But first you have to get ICE owners in the saddle and that is influenced by both price and advertised range.

My VFR can't do that generally even with a 21 litre tank and it's a touring bike.

[Richard230]

It will happen faster once the range gets increased and the price drops to a more affordable level.

Range doesn't need to be increased. We only need more places to charge up when out in the middle of nowhere.


-Don-  Auburn, CA

Not in the eyes of current ICE riders without EV experience.  i have two long-time ICE riding friends who say they would never buy an electric motorcycle unless it will travel at least 200 miles at 75 mph. Recharging during their ride is just not something they are thinking about right now. That sort of thinking comes later, after you first buy an electric motorcycle and then understand how they work and how you will use it. But first you have to get ICE owners in the saddle and that is influenced by both price and advertised range.

My VFR can't do that generally even with a 21 litre tank and it's a touring bike.

All of my ICE motorcycles will go over 200 miles on a full tank of fuel, even my KTM with its 3.5 gallon tank. My friends ride BMW's that either have a large fuel tank or get 65 mpg, such as one friend's BMW F800ST. In any case, they remain nervous about long charging times and that charging stations will either be occupied when they need them or not operating due to lack of maintenance or vandalism. While that may not be your experience, it is their perception, which impacts their interest in spending a lot of money to buy an EV.

[DonTom]

Not in the eyes of current ICE riders without EV experience.  i have two long-time ICE riding friends who say they would never buy an electric motorcycle unless it will travel at least 200 miles at 75 mph. Recharging during their ride is just not something they are thinking about right now. That sort of thinking comes later, after you first buy an electric motorcycle and then understand how they work and how you will use it. But first you have to get ICE owners in the saddle and that is influenced by both price and advertised range.

Yes, I have noticed all of that also.


The strange thing is the first thing I look for in ICE bikes is the size of the gas tank and the range on a tank of gas. The gas tank on my Moto Guzzi is 8.5 gallons. My Triumph is close to 8 gallons. My Harley is six gallons, but can get 300 miles on a tank as it gets fifty MPG at normal freeway speeds of 65 to 70 MPH (but really sucks the gas at 85 mph).


On electrics, I care more about charge stations than range. If a battery is twice the size, it normally takes twice as long to charge at the same charge rate anyway. I prefer the more stops and wait at each half as long.


Even on my SS9-, I can recall when I rode it back from Livermore, I was disappointed to see the next charge station (well within my range) was farther than I wanted to see because I already wanted to stop for a short rest.  That is when I realized that charge station locations were more important to me than my range. Range is important for now because there are no charge stations in many areas within my range. But that will change in the next couple of years, especially when I can charge up my SS9- at Tesla Superchargers.


-Don-  Auburn, CA

[Richard230]

About 10 years ago my friend who owns a BMW F800ST once rode from Spokane, Washington to Cordelia, CA in one day, only stopping for gas. My daughter used to live in Ballard, Washington (north of Seattle) and she would come down to Pacifica on a Saturday to visit me and then ride back home on Sunday on her 1981 BMW R65LS, also without stopping for anything but gas. I would take at least two days to travel to either destination - and that would be when I was a lot younger. A trip like would be definitely no fun for me. But some people like to travel distances like that without stopping. 

[DonTom]

About 10 years ago my friend who owns a BMW F800ST once rode from Spokane, Washington to Cordelia, CA in one day, only stopping for gas. My daughter used to live in Ballard, Washington (north of Seattle) and she would come down to Pacifica on a Saturday to visit me and then ride back home on Sunday on her 1981 BMW R65LS, also without stopping for anything but gas. I would take at least two days to travel to either destination - and that would be when I was a lot younger. A trip like would be definitely no fun for me. But some people like to travel distances like that without stopping. 

My longest ride was on my shiny new 1971 BMW back in 1971. It was August, too hot to stop for long and I rode from the Big Bend of Texas to Salton Sea CA in one day. My longest ride ever, 1,025 miles. I was not trying for the distance. I was not trying for an Iron Butt Award or anything like that. It was simply the distance I then rode without even really thinking about how far I went.


Not something that I would want to now do at my age. I have been back to the Big Bend a couple of times, but in an RV. My Zero DS carried on the hitch.


But I am sure you know, these days, many have done more than 1,000 miles in a day on an electric as well. Most I have done in a day on an electric is still less than 300 miles. But very close to 300, a few times. I am not into doing things just to say I have done them or to get an award or whatever. I go on rides to enjoy the ride or to get somewhere I need to go.




-Don-   Auburn, CA