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Energica / Re: received my Ego Tricolor
« on: March 31, 2022, 03:46:39 PM »
There is a 6pin connector on mine that has nothing plugged in.   pin 1 is 12v and pin 2 is ground.  It was sitting on top of the battery at the front.  Look under the big giant orange connector at the front.
Ok, thanks - I'll check it out when I get home (traveling right now). I'm just super hesitant to try to tap into anything that even closely resembles the main power. It's weird because on an ICE bike I'd hook up all sorts of electrical stuff, but on this one I'm not confident I won't completely screw up the main drive system...

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Energica / Re: received my Ego Tricolor
« on: March 31, 2022, 06:37:35 AM »
2.  Thinkware sport m1 dash camera installed.   12V is wired to the factory harness via factory plugs (no splicing).  Energica uses weather proof connectors and the 12v is available on the 6pin connector.. This might be the same plug as the USB but I'm not using that.  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FTRV25T/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1  Still need to figure out where to mount the cameras but electrically, its done.

I see the pic with the "tank" removed - where exactly did you plug the connector for the 12V? I've been trying to wire a Garmin and can't seem to get it to work off the USB, even though it shows 12V with a multimeter...

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Energica / Re: Optimal target SoC setting?
« on: December 30, 2021, 04:54:05 AM »
There's a SoC limit setting in the menu that you can set to 80% or whatever. It's in the same menu as where you enable LPR Mode.

Cool, thanks - I don't think I actually looked through that menu other than to go into LPR mode. Now I can just plug it in when I get home and not worry about overcharging the battery.

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Energica / Re: Optimal target SoC setting?
« on: December 29, 2021, 02:29:56 AM »
Ok, so this may be a dumb question but is there a way to tell the battery to stop charging at 80% other than LPR mode? I ride almost every day but I come home (usually about 60%) and plug it into a 220 outlet to charge up full for the next day. I only need about 40% of the battery so I don't have any issues with only charging it to 80% but the only way I know how to do that is in LPR mode. And I don't feel like messing around with button presses and all that, especially at 0500 when I need to get out the door for work. So I only do LPR mode when I know I won't ride for more than four or five days.

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Damon / Re: Hyperfighter Colossus concept video
« on: December 15, 2021, 10:18:14 PM »
they said they would build the first 26 bikes at their HQ.
I'd say the rest wait for the factory to be finished but that part is my guess.
;D This makes it sound like they're pushing aside their desks and cubicles to assemble the bikes in the middle of some office space until they have a factory.

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Energica / Re: How to stop charging on keyless models
« on: December 06, 2021, 08:30:23 AM »
If you press the starter button while the active key is within a meter or so, it will turn the bike on, disconnecting the charger.

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Energica / Re: Not 12V to USB on 2022 Ribelle?
« on: September 20, 2021, 06:41:23 AM »
Same here. 2nd was the horn, which is almost as weak  as Zero's.


-Don-  Reno, NV

What kind of horn did you swap to and was it hard? I have a spare horn that I never put on my old bike and could put it on the Ribelle.

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Energica / Re: Not 12V to USB on 2022 Ribelle?
« on: September 06, 2021, 12:27:57 AM »
I realize I am bringing up my own zombie post, but I wanted to update anyone who cares on what the problem was. This morning I finally had some time to get out to the garage to try again. Armed with a cheap multimeter and some time, I unhooked everything and started from scratch. I hooked the Garmin power cable to my truck and took a picture showing that it was getting 5V at the GPS. I hooked the 2-pin splitter to the motorcycle and hooked the 2-pin connected I got from Amazon and it showed 12V. I hooked the Garmin cable bare wires to the cheap Amazon connector, red-red/black-black, and got nothing. I took pictures of it all, getting ready to post a new topic on here in the general technical section. I came back into the house and my wife asked me what I was working on. Like the good teacher I am, I explained the whole problem to her, and showed her the photos I was going to post. Halfway through, when I showed her the photo of the 12V coming from the bike, she asked why it said -12V.

DUH. ::)

So anyway, those cheap connectors I got from Amazon were almost all wired wrong. I wired it up black-red/red-black and hey, it worked! It was probably one of the simplest things ever to have checked, but I didn't have a multimeter to check until recently. I know Demoni mentioned that as a potential issue but I must have thought I'd checked it at one point and hadn't. Thankfully my wife was detached from the frustration I'd been having so she was able to see what should have been obvious to me...

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Energica / Re: Not 12V to USB on 2022 Ribelle?
« on: August 05, 2021, 10:48:15 PM »
So you're not using the lighter adapter? I wonder if there is someting inside of it, but that won't explain why it works on one vehicle and not another.


All my bikes have a GPS.  All are Garmin (except my  Harley that has its own). I have a special directory in all my Garmins for charge stations. A separate one for  DC fast and AC slow charge stations on my Energica.  My longer rides  are between the charge stations in my Garmin GPS.


-Don-  Reno, NV

I don't think the XT came with a lighter adapter. It has a mount with a connector that can be hardwired into the motorcycle. The picture I posted isn't the greatest, but you can see a black wire going from the mount to a small black box which converts it from 12V to something less. I'm at work so I don't know the exact specification but I know it says something like "12V DC in / 5V DC out" or something similar. The red and black wires going from that box were connected directly to the negative battery terminal and a power distribution box on my old bike (I had lots of lights and stuff on that bike).

Did you build the charge station map yourself or was it something you found? That would be really useful (once I actually get the GPS hardwired).

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Energica / Re: Not 12V to USB on 2022 Ribelle?
« on: August 05, 2021, 08:25:35 PM »
That needs some clarification.


The "two bare wires"?  From the Garmin cable or another cable? If you mean the Garmin cable with both, and it works with the truck only, get yourself a cheap VOM and see what the voltage is under the load of the Garmin in both cases, the truck and the bike, measured right on the GPS wires.


-Don-
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Bare wires from the Garmin cable - the wires that I had connected to the battery on my old motorcycle. I touched them to the battery terminals on my truck and it got power, but when I twist them together with the red/black wires from a 2-pin and connect it to the 2-pin on the bike, it gets nothing.

I just ordered a cheap VOM from Amazon and it'll arrive before the weekend so I can troubleshoot some more. It's annoying to not have a GPS, but I know my way around most of the good roads around here so the only thing I'm missing out on is the random side roads that I usually like to travel when I'm out exploring. I still have a little bit of range anxiety and I don't like to be too far away from known distances to home/DCFC.

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Energica / Re: Not 12V to USB on 2022 Ribelle?
« on: August 04, 2021, 06:21:29 AM »
Can confirm. The black tubular unit that is attached to your dash is what converts the bikes 12VDC to 5VDC for USB power. All the wiring before that is providing 12VDC.
Please remember that the bike provides 12VDC not the 13-14.5VDC that a ICE bike outputs.

Hmm, so I wonder what's wrong with my Garmin cable. Like I said, when I take the two bare wires and connect them to the battery in my truck it gets power. When I twist them to the 2-pin it gets nothing. I haven't tried twisting them "backwards" (red to black) to see if the 2-pin is wired wrong. I thought I've isolated everything but I guess the next step will be to try connecting the wires directly to the two prongs that go into the USB converter to see if that gets me power. If the two wires to the two prongs works, then it's something with the 2-pin. Curious...

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Energica / Re: Not 12V to USB on 2022 Ribelle?
« on: August 01, 2021, 10:08:48 AM »
Just note the circuit is only active when the bike is on or is charging.

With just the bikes USB port plugged in is there a blue ring that lights up when the bike is turned on? It's possible you shorted something out or wired something backwards, this could cause the fuse to blow. Remove the right tank cover look for black rubber box (1"x3"), lift the lid and check fuse #6 (10A).

I would double check the polarity of the circuit with a multimeter. I found the connectors purchased on Amazon to have their connectors wired opposite the way the bikes connectors are pinned out.

1) The USB port still lights up so I know there's not a short before the 2-pin connector on the bike and I've got the bike on when I'm trying to get the Zumo to work. I'll check the polarity - i haven't tried that yet, but it's simply a matter of switching wires since I haven't soldered/shrinkwrapped them yet, until I know for sure that it'll work.

Garmin expects you to use the 12 volt cable to run the GPS. They assume when you're using a USB cable, you're trying to communicate with a computer. They often have resistors in their cables and other cables may not be compatible, depending on what you want to do. And the resistor values can change between models.

IMO, the best way to do this is to get to the 13V supply in your bike. Your 5VDC USB is most likely fed with 13V as mine is.

Then use the stock 12V Garmin automotive cable.


2) I think I'm tapping into the 13VDC before it gets to the USB. It's the 2-pin connector that the USB plugs into that I'm using. I'm using the cable that came with the Zumo that I had installed on my previous bike and it worked without issues. It's not a USB cable, it's the hardwire cable that's made to fit into the motorcycle mount.

OP - the Zumo-XT powers up fine from Ribelle's USB port, the problem lies in capacity to sustain backlight intensity for day use - for that you will want to tap into the fuse that serves USB / Heated Grips using Garmin DC adapter thingy that came w/ the XT.

Yes, that's the issue - I can use the USB, but it gets dark after a little while of riding (maybe it's related to the amount of charge left on the bike?) and it's a PITA to have to unplug the USB every time I stop somewhere instead of just grabbing it off the mount which I can do when it's hardwired. I can try tapping into the fuse - I remember seeing a thread somewhere that had an adapter or something to hook directly into the fuse box.

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Energica / Not 12V to USB on 2022 Ribelle?
« on: August 01, 2021, 05:57:56 AM »
Greetings,

I am trying to hardwire a Zumo XT on my 2022 Ribelle. Based on some searches here I bought the Ulitmate Addon splitter so I could tap into the power going to the USB port. I connected a 2-port plug to the wires on the Zumo and connected it to the 2-port plug on the UA splitter. It didn't work. I connected it directly to the 2-port that the USB was plugged into, and it still didn't work. I tested that the Zumo wiring was still good by connecting it to the battery on my truck and it got power just fine. So the problem is either A) the power going into the USB port is not 12V, or B) I have the wrong connector. It looks like the right connector, and marries up just fine with the port, (either through the splitter or straight into the stock connection that the USB plugs into).

The 2-port connector is from Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/LanHong-Waterproof-Electrical-Connector-Marine/dp/B01F54PFLE

I've attached a picture of the connector I'm trying to use (under the bike's dashboard) and the wiring for the Zumo.

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General Discussion / Re: Possible motrcycle trailer option
« on: August 01, 2021, 04:08:36 AM »
Looks like an awesome wheelie bar when it's folded up!

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Energica / Re: Regen and CC user interface while riding..?
« on: July 17, 2021, 07:22:30 PM »
Mine is on full regen all the time, what is the advantage of lowering it ?

I turn mine to low on curvy roads just to mimic the slight engine braking that I was used to in ICE bikes. I don't like the regen slowing me down so abruptly coming into a corner where I just want to gradually skim some speed. I use it on high in city/urban areas because I like not having to use the brakes all the time and from what I understand the high regen activates the brake light.

I've only had the bike for a couple of weeks and 450 or so miles, and it has become second nature to go through the button presses to change regen. I change the riding mode too, just as easily.

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