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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Zero S 2013 Not starting
« on: December 08, 2020, 02:46:58 PM »
Well, I have chosen a not so elegant but quick repair. I added one more connector (a single wire one) for the faulty cable. It seems to work (the bike switched on and moved fw 1m :) ). Replacing the whole connector would be pretty painful, most likely I should replace most of the cables since (as I can see now) the cabling is pretty much a chaos.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Zero S 2013 Not starting
« on: December 08, 2020, 02:04:41 PM »
Well:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/8TKFCAWEym2QGeyy5

I think I found it....

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Zero S 2013 Not starting
« on: December 08, 2020, 01:48:31 PM »
I have posted this on the Facebook as well, but I am hoping, that others are reading it here :)

My Zero is not going anywhere. The relay switches periodically on and off. I read the Sevcon, and it says:
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DEBUG:         54761  ..\src\Application\zero_mbb_module.c            : line  1906 - Restarting Sevcon to clear cutout Fault               
DEBUG:         54777  ..\src\Application\zero_mbb_module.c            : line  1108 - Disconnecting Module 00                               
DEBUG:         54796  ..\src\Application\zero_mbb_module.c            : line  1108 - Disconnecting Module 01                               
DEBUG:         55210  ..\src\Application\zero_mbb_sevcon_interface.c  : line   264 - Turning Off Sevcon                                   
DEBUG:         55382  ..\src\Application\zero_mbb_can.c               : line   779 - CAN1 ACK error                                       
DEBUG:         57232  ..\src\Application\zero_mbb_sevcon_interface.c  : line   251 - Turning On Sevcon                                     
DEBUG:         57265  ..\src\Application\zero_mbb_sevcon_interface.c  : line  2694 - Sevcon CAN Disconnected                               
DEBUG:         58239  ..\src\Application\zero_mbb_can.c               : line   704 - Initializing Sevcon CAN                               
DEBUG:         58257  ..\src\Application\zero_mbb_can.c               : line   831 - CAN1 BIT0 error                                       
DEBUG:         58270  ..\src\Application\zero_mbb_sevcon_interface.c  : line  2676 - Sevcon CAN Connected                                 
DEBUG:         58380  ..\src\Application\zero_mbb_sevcon_interface.c  : line  2928 - Precharge Complete (111 V / 113 V)                   
DEBUG:         58381  ..\src\Application\zero_mbb_sevcon_interface.c  : line   872 - Sevcon Contactor Drive OFF                           
DEBUG:         58432  ..\src\Application\zero_mbb_can.c               : line   980 - Sevcon CAN EMCY Frame, Error Code: 0x5000, Error Reg: 0x40, Sevcon Error Code: 0x46C3, Data: 1F 01 00, Unknown
DEBUG:         58472  ..\src\Application\zero_mbb_can.c               : line   980 - Sevcon CAN EMCY Frame, Error Code: 0x0000, Error Reg: 0x00, Sevcon Error Code: 0x46C3, Data: 00 00 3E, Unknown
DEBUG:         58660  ..\src\Application\zero_mbb_sevcon_interface.c  : line   862 - Sevcon Contactor Drive ON                             
DEBUG:         58676  ..\src\Application\zero_mbb_module.c            : line  1578 - Connecting Eligible Modules                           
DEBUG:         58677  ..\src\Application\zero_mbb_module.c            : line  1171 - Connecting Module 00                                 
DEBUG:         58776  ..\src\Application\zero_mbb_can.c               : line   980 - Sevcon CAN EMCY Frame, Error Code: 0x5000, Error Reg: 0x40, Sevcon Error Code: 0x52C1, Data: 00 02 00, Encoder fault
DEBUG:         58813  ..\src\Application\zero_mbb_can.c               : line   980 - Sevcon CAN EMCY Frame, Error Code: 0x5000, Error Reg: 0x40, Sevcon Error Code: 0x46C3, Data: 1F 10 00, Unknown
DEBUG:         59177  ..\src\Application\zero_mbb_sevcon_interface.c  : line   825 - Contactor took 487 ms to close               
Reading this, I tend to believe, that there is no connection to the motor. Logical would be the connector between the Sevcon and the motor, but there is no visible issue. I tried to move it, clean it, but no success. I also measured the 5 wires, which are going to the Sevcon (between the 2 connectors) and they are OK. The 6th is going on, so I could not check that. I am not sure, how I could check it on the motor side.
Any help/idea is highly appreciated.

br,

aron

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Zero S 2013 acceleration
« on: November 07, 2020, 07:38:48 PM »
Quote from: Shadow on September 30, 2020, 09:35:54 AM
Quote from: xerxesz on September 29, 2020, 03:57:44 PM
Today the new Magura throttle arrived, and I mounted it on the bike. Well, the difference is amazing :D

::video::
Good ol'e rubberband strap.  So many times I tried as well to capture video and the rubberband strap leaps into frame ;D

In serious discussion however I have a request:   Can you make a similar video (and good quality camera pictures) about the assembly of your Magura throttle, that we may add it to Zeromanual?   Over a long time the effort you make now will help someone else to fix their bike more quickly and with better information.

Hi,

I just reread your request. Actually I did not manage to really reassemble my throttle - because of the spring - but I started to collect my experiences here: https://sites.google.com/view/zeros2013/home
Not sure if it is any value for anybody, but if it is great.

br,

aron

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Zero S 2013 acceleration
« on: September 30, 2020, 12:43:55 PM »
Quote from: Shadow on September 30, 2020, 09:35:54 AM
Quote from: xerxesz on September 29, 2020, 03:57:44 PM
Today the new Magura throttle arrived, and I mounted it on the bike. Well, the difference is amazing :D

::video::
Good ol'e rubberband strap.  So many times I tried as well to capture video and the rubberband strap leaps into frame ;D

In serious discussion however I have a request:   Can you make a similar video (and good quality camera pictures) about the assembly of your Magura throttle, that we may add it to Zeromanual?   Over a long time the effort you make now will help someone else to fix their bike more quickly and with better information.

At the moment it is anyhow a temporary solution. I will make it permanent - during the weekend - and create some doc describing what I did.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Zero S 2013 acceleration
« on: September 29, 2020, 03:57:44 PM »
Today the new Magura throttle arrived, and I mounted it on the bike. Well, the difference is amazing :D


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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Zero S 2013 acceleration
« on: September 29, 2020, 03:56:59 PM »
Quote from: NEW2elec on September 29, 2020, 06:15:33 AM
If your part of Face Book you can log in and look at the comments from this post.
Harlan Flag did a video showing how to best set the throttle spring.
I'm not a member so i can't link it directly.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/zmcowners/permalink/1099106633491877/?hc_location=ufi

Thanks! I joined the group there as well :)

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Zero S 2013 acceleration
« on: September 29, 2020, 03:56:07 PM »


It helped me a lot when installing heated grips to read the information at:
Throttle (Zeromanual)
Mine is different. I guess, this is the newer one (after 2014). Mine is from 2013, a Magura one with potentiometer.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Zero S 2013 acceleration
« on: September 28, 2020, 02:06:41 PM »
Quote from: Crissa on September 28, 2020, 01:56:49 PM
So you've manually limited your torque, just like as if you did it in the app ^-^

Glad you figured out the problem!

-Crissa

Right. Not so easy to change :D

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Zero S 2013 acceleration
« on: September 28, 2020, 01:37:24 PM »
Quote from: MBldc on September 28, 2020, 11:23:07 AM
Quote from: xerxesz on September 27, 2020, 08:28:31 PM
Hey Guys, thanks for the hints, especially for @MbLDC. I checked the Throttle and it was dead. I do not even know how it worked until now. For now, I found another 5K potentiometer at home, 3D printed some parts, and have a working temporary solution, until the new Magura throttle arrives.

:-) Great to hear (super, dass es geklappt hat, bin auch aus Good old Germany).
How does your temporary solution look like?
I changed to Domino Throttle back then, which is sealed, is more of a quick throttle, and seemed to be of higher quality.

I am originally from Hungary, now living in Germany (also speaking German).

I just purchased some 5k Ohm potentiometer, and 3D printed the back side of the throttle and the gear, so it is working as the stock now, with 2 small differenies:
1. I could not put the spring back. Lack of manual skills, I guess, so I am running without now, which is not very good for the long run, but for a few days it is OK.
2. The original potentiometer has a smaller degrees of rotation. This means, however it is much better, as it was before, I can only utilize the 0-3k Ohm range of the "new" one. I could find some workaround, but since I ordered a new Magura throttle, I do not plan to change it now.


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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Zero S 2013 acceleration
« on: September 28, 2020, 02:15:51 AM »
Quote from: NEW2elec on September 27, 2020, 09:42:16 PM
Glad it worked out for you.  It's a bit more fun now, huh?
It is a different bike :P

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Zero S 2013 acceleration
« on: September 27, 2020, 08:28:31 PM »
Hey Guys, thanks for the hints, especially for @MbLDC. I checked the Throttle and it was dead. I do not even know how it worked until now. For now, I found another 5K potentiometer at home, 3D printed some parts, and have a working temporary solution, until the new Magura throttle arrives.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Zero S 2013 acceleration
« on: September 25, 2020, 12:19:54 AM »
Quote from: Kappi on September 25, 2020, 12:10:25 AM
From the video it also looks like your acceleration might be intermittent and not constant. Does feel like that as well?
No, it feels pretty smooth. It is getting slightly stronger as it gets faster, but it is just slow. Or rather weak.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Zero S 2013 acceleration
« on: September 24, 2020, 10:21:00 PM »
And here's the video:

https://youtu.be/N-OE4rs9-GE?t=229

0-100 kmh acceleration ~20seconds. Seems to be much more, than what you told :)

Let's hope the dealer will be able to fix this.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Zero S 2013 acceleration
« on: September 24, 2020, 09:09:42 PM »
Thanks for your replies :)

1. Well, it is definitely not 5secs. I will do a quick video to show. but it is far more.
2. Yesterday I visited a dealer and I have a service-appointment for next Wednesday. I hope they will find something :)
3. I will still check the throttle. Might be worth....

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