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Range estimate is important. The issue is, that Energica (as well as Zero) are very poor estimating it. Energica calculates range based on consumption of the last couple of km. If this is 2 km downhill you get a range of 500km. This does not make sense since there is no 500km downhill road on this planet. Same is true if you are 2km uphill and the range is calculated on a 200 wh/km range.  Guess what: It gets downhill once you are at the top of the hill. I have done my own estimate reading data from OBD2. I take average consumption of the day as well as long term average in calculation and I find it very accurate. By no means rocket science.

May be this does not answer the question, but it might be interesting anyway. I have connected a OBD2 dongle to my Experia for a year or so and gained some data I would like to share with you.
First graph is a charging session on DC from 10% to 70%. Ambient temp was 24.8 Celsius. Learning from this graph:

• 10% SOC increase heats up the battery ~2 degrees Celsius
• <= 40 deg Celsius you get full DC speed
• > 40 deg Celsius <= 50 deg Celsius: DC speed throttles down 1KW for each degree
• Although not visible from this chart: > 50 deg Celsius DC charging speed will dramatically throttle down

Second graph is captured while driving the same day.
The blue area in the chart reflects the consumption. Most interesting is the yellow line (battery temp in Celsius).
Learnings from this chart: The battery temp increases while driving. The increase is partly due o increased ambient temp (green line), but as you can see it gets ~10 deg Celsius higher than ambient temp after 220km of riding - this was the time of the charging session. After DC charge the battery temp is 49 degrees, a delta of 23 deg Celsius to ambient temp. The battery temp than decreases while riding to 44 deg Celsius. It looks like it does not decrease further (18 degr above ambient temp).
The last chart is captured while riding at a day with two (short) DC charge stops. For me it is evidend, that the fundamental findings are still true.

This would be my advise if you want to ride long distance:
Keep the battery as hot as possible but below 50 deg C. Reason: The hotter the battery the more it will cool down while driving. Below 50 deg Celsius you still have acceptable charging speed.
Charge DC until charging speed drops to ~16 KW (49 deg C batt temp)
Ride  ~80km and bring down battery temp 5 deg C. Riding further will only decrease SOC, but not significantly battery temp.
This 5 deg delta will allow you to charge up ~25% SOC. If you drive very efficient you can keep running this way.

All data I captured is in Summertime and riding in the mountains with lots of regen.

Thanks!!! This was also my thinking. I just wanted to double-check:) Looks like reading this sort of data from OBD2 (lowest_cell_voltage_mv, pack_capacity_ah) is kind of pointless since you can't trust the data.

Any idea if there is a Rim Paint Pen in the market that fits Zeros "Bronze Effect"? I guess a hint on correct RAL number would also work

Quote from: ms_smart on May 24, 2023, 06:23:50 PM

I have seen data between 93 and 112. Currently it says 104. This is more than 20% delta.

It should never be anything other than 114.

I would like to disagree. Please also look at https://www.electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=10424.0 I have seen in August 2020 a value of 109 where remmie got 106 and Hans2183 got 112. This is by no means constant 114. Since I log data on a regular base I know for soure that at least my data for pack_capacity_ah is changing over time (see my chart reflecting the last 3 years)

Hi Tony,

I own a 2020 SR/S and bought both options: 10% charging upgrade and parking mode. Both options require the right firmware. if you dashboard shows the option "parkmode" in grey your are good to go and can just buy it through the cypher store. With the 10% charging upgrade you need at least firmware 2.0 on the charger(s). If you have 2.0 you are also good to go and can buy the option through the cypher store.
The required dealer work is the firmware update if required.
Please note: If your dealer is not too far away I would recommend to do the upgrade at the dealer. Dealers have a dealer code to enter into the App. Your dealer might offer you the cypher upgrades at lower costs! The firmware updates are at least at my dealer for free.
I am very happy with both options. You can upgrade the two internal chargers, but not the chargetank. I definitively get the full 10% - even a little more.

Thanks for your feedback! I can now confirm, that 204 and 206 both works with the charger upgrade. I get now 13.018 kWh charge speed on AC and 12.429 kWh on DC if charging on a public 22KW charger. This is indeed 0.6 kWh more than what I got before the upgrade.

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*                       Chargers                            *
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Charger, En, OUT V, OUT A,  IN V,  IN A, IN HZ, CMD IN, CMD OUT, Ver,  Serial, CANid, Status
   3kW ,  1, 106.2,  31.0,   233,  14.8,    50,     17,      31, 206,       0, 0x010, 0x0080
   3kW ,  1, 106.3,  30.8,   233,  14.7,    50,     17,      31, 204, 1923138, 0x011, 0x0080
   6kW ,  1, 106.4,  55.1,   231,  26.6,    50,     29,      58, 200, 1919058, 0x012, 0x0080
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ZERO MBB>

@zeronimbus, I also get from time to time DEBUG messages - but have never seen that many. Normally you can just ignore them. If you can't type in a command, your serial line settings might be incorrect.