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I do not get their newsletter, but I did get the survey.  The thing I want most is to eliminate delays in communication between Zero and dealers that result in weeks-long wait times to get customers back on the road. 

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I am curious to know; what dealer?  The dealer where I took my fxs last summer seemed to be pretty dis-enchanted with Zero maintenance processes.  i.e. the dealer technician is helpless without the factory connection.  They had no problems with selling them, but all of the time-consuming logistics involved with connecting to the factory in a different time zone made a simple process extraordinarily difficult.  I would not be at all surprised to learn that it was my dealer.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Max speed limit
« on: October 06, 2020, 05:56:31 AM »
I don't believe it is limited by the speedometer.  I just rode my '16 FXS to an "indicated" 90 MPH, at which point, it shut down and coasted to a stop.  I'm not convinced it was going that fast.  My town has a radar speed check set up to inform drivers of their speed as they drive by.  The radar speed shows 29 MPH while my Zero speedometer shows 34 MPH.  If that discrepancy is correct, my actual speed would have been 77 MPH when the speedometer indicated 90 MPH



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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: New guy, think of buying 2014 S
« on: September 08, 2020, 05:09:32 AM »
It is parked in the corner of my garage.  730 miles from the nearest part of Georgia.
 Actually, I have ridden it about a dozen times since it came back from the dealer.  I have discovered that if I apply throttle very slowly the first time I take off, it seems to operate without issue until the switch is turned off.  It is an interesting motorcycle, but it needs a new home.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: New guy, think of buying 2014 S
« on: September 08, 2020, 12:26:20 AM »
It might be really great, but if something goes wrong you might end up needing to spend THOUSANDS more to keep riding it.  A 2014 will have NO WARRANTY.  From my point of view, it seems like Zero's solution to problems is to totally replace BIG and EXPENSIVE components.  Before you buy, check out prices on motors($3000), controllers(~$1,500), batteries($2,500-$3,000) and be aware that YOU CAN'T FIX IT!!!
 They want me to buy a new motor for mine.  I will just write it off as a bad experience because it simply isn't a good enough bike to invest that much money to fix it's problems.  I would not buy another Zero.  I am NOT a fanboy. 

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Slow service for alignment
« on: August 27, 2020, 06:29:51 PM »
Here is my experience.  Everything here is purely my opinion and may be right or it may be wrong, but this is the story from my point of view.

At the request of the dealer. I took my FXS to him, July 20, 2020.
August 21, 2020 the dealer told me Zero had finally been able to connect to my bike and they believed that it needed either a controller(~$1500) or motor(~$3000), but we had to wait for Zero to have a meeting the following Monday to decide for sure.  Not being able to make an immediate decision, based on the diagnostics report does not give me a feeling of confidence in Zero.  It feels to me like they are just guessing and wanting to throw expensive parts at it in the hope that something might fix it.  Somehow it had been determined that commissioning or alignment wasn't the problem.
August 26, 2020 I picked the bike up from the dealer and paid them $160 for their time (Actually, that was a low price for the diagnostics effort on their part.)
At that time, the dealer told me it had been decided (by Zero) that a new motor was needed.  Because of its age,(2016) the bike is no longer covered under warranty.  So,,, now I have a bike with 1707 miles on the odometer that Zero says needs a $3000 motor replacement.  It does not make good business sense for me to spend the additional money on a bike that I paid $4500 for when I bought it.  Rather than spending more money on the Zero, I have invested the $3000 in a beautiful Honda CRF230L that has 1450 miles on it.  It will be reliable and will serve me for many years and, if it breaks, I can fix it myself!!!!!! 

What have I learned?  A used Zero might look like a good deal, but if it breaks, you might have a very expensive pile of useless junk.  BUYER BEWARE!!!

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Slow service for alignment
« on: August 14, 2020, 08:25:26 PM »
It has been another week and the dealer told me this morning, they haven't touched it. 

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Slow service for alignment
« on: August 07, 2020, 06:01:06 AM »
Actually, I just got off of the phone with Zero customer support and I'm sure I was smiling.  They are GOOD!  I got all of the service history, registered myself as the current owner, confirmed that it is probably nothing more than timing/alignment/commissioning.  I also learned that Zero says they have NOT BEEN CONTACTED by the dealer about the bike.  They will be calling the dealer tomorrow morning to try to expedite the service work.

So,,,,,, If it works the way it should, I'll be right here "eating crow" and, hopefully learning to contribute to the forum.  Many thanks to all of the people who have been trying to help. 

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Slow service for alignment
« on: August 07, 2020, 05:30:48 AM »
Auriga:    Very good response.  I'll take your advice and try to contact someone at Zero tomorrow.  Thanks.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Slow service for alignment
« on: August 07, 2020, 04:31:05 AM »
Well, then name the dealer.

Neither we nor Zero can know which dealer is being a twit about it unless someone stands up and says.

-Crissa

That information was in my first post in this thread.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Slow service for alignment
« on: August 07, 2020, 04:25:54 AM »
I bought it from a car dealer, who bought it from an auto auction, who got it from a bank that had repo'd it from ???.  Good luck getting any history from that mess.  I assume that Zero would have original sales and commissioning information, but I also assume that info would not be available to me.  PM me if you want to discuss buying it.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Slow service for alignment
« on: August 07, 2020, 02:33:28 AM »
I really don't care whether the problem is at the dealer or at the factory.  I blame Zero for allowing someone to be a dealer if they don't have the resources to do the job.  I have mentally written the "zero" off as a bad decision on my part, and have continued to enjoy my operating and repairable motorcycles.  I know of at least two sales that this situation has cost Zero, so, actually, Zero is paying.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Slow service for alignment
« on: August 04, 2020, 08:23:10 PM »
I took my FXS to the dealer 15 days ago.  When I called them this morning, they told me that they hadn't touched the bike, because they only had two techs in the shop and hadn't gotten to it yet. That does not match up with what I was told when I took it in.   I am probably going to go to the dealer and pick up the bike tomorrow.  I will probably part it out, as the parts are worth more than the defective motorcycle.  Zero seems to be an appropriate name for the bike, as that is the score I would give it, based on my experience with it so far.  I have to assume that if it were a brand new bike with full warranty, I would still have the same problem, because the dealer still would not have enough techs to get to it on a timely basis.

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Use that space to install a "fuel injection" system.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Slow service for alignment
« on: July 28, 2020, 05:40:53 AM »
I bought the bike, used, with 1700 miles on it.  I have ridden it less than 100 miles.  Due to the nature of the purchase, no service records are available to me.  The trip to the dealer was not related to any pre-determined service intervals.  It was purely because of erratic behavior as described in my original post in this thread. 

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