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When you think about it 1%/day is a lot of electrons going somewhere and generating heat in the process.  Maybe it is a design feature to keep something warm?  I don't think your average 18650  lithium battery loses that much of a charge/day

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1%/day on my 2020 FX7.2 
I should specify that it was from 100% to 92% over 8 days plus minus a day.
I have my bike at a second mountain home so it spends a a lot of time in the garage.
This winter will be a good test of the storage mode that I read about here.
31% loss in 23 days (1.3%/day) of sitting in a cool garage.
Did we ever get an explanation of where the electrons are leaking to?

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Very sorry to hear that Crissa.
Hope everything turns out well for you and everyone else in our poor state.
Take care.
-Chris

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All good news that makes me feel a lot better.  Thanks. 

I think I'll keep the bike out of the soft stuff and stay on more civilized roads up there. I doubt I have the strength to get it back up again if I tip over. That's what the TW is for.

The good news is that the paved Forest Service Road in the Shasta Trinity NF are almost devoid of traffic.  There is some really nice riding around the Medicine Lake area.  Especially,  Little Glass Mountain.  I highly recommend the view from the Little Mount Hoffman Fire Lookout.

The bad news is that all the fires in California have made it so riding is not something you want to do much of.

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Good Point Crissa.  Wouldn't Zero owners in Israel be posting problems on this forum?  At any rate, I am an extremely cautious rider out to enjoy the solitude and beauty of the Mt Shasta.  Using Topfusion to view the GPX file from my Garmin it said that I averaged 23 mph on that ride and that includes 12 miles on 89 which has a 65 mph speed limit. I rode my TW less than 500 miles in the last year so if I have problems with my FX then Zero has big problems. As long as Zero keeps selling bikes they will keep us happy.  Especially with the communications owners have on forums like this one.
By the way, Topofusion is a great piece of SW written by mountain bikers from I think New Mexico.  I've logged and saved most of my mountain bike and dirt bike rides for the last 10 or 15 years using it. It downloads your ride from Garmins and other GPSs, reads GPX files and displays them on a bunch of online maps. Give it a try for free. 

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You're scaring the hell out of me. I have less than 200 miles on my 2020 FX which I bought to explore Mount Shasta CA logging and Forest Service Roads with.  I would not be a happy camper if I broke down out in the wilderness. 
I did give it a pretty good test climbing 4700 feet to 7800' from McCloud to the Old Ski Bowl taking a dirt road  from the new ski area to the Everitt Memorial Highway and looping back through Mt Shasta City on 89.  I went 46 miles with 44% left.
I've attached the GPS file.  The FX is nice on pavement but I trust my 2019 Yamaha TW a lot more off road.  I think I'm going to stay in cell phone range which is pretty good up there even at 8500 feet at the Clear Creek Trail Head .

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: FX 7.2 Trail Range
« on: June 11, 2020, 08:53:20 AM »
Thanks I’ll do what you suggested.  Do we really need to limit the charging time?  You would think that the onboard charger would shut off once it’s fully charged.
That’s a nice heavy duty timer for a lot less than a tp link hs 110.  I have control of so many devices from my iPhone that it’s getting ridiculous. The Kasa app that controls all kinds tp link of switches and bulbs is rock solid.


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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: FX 7.2 Trail Range
« on: June 10, 2020, 09:30:17 AM »
Pretty sure it was connected.  I will double check.  I think I may have seen 87% charge and wondered what’s up with that.  I need to spend some time with the manual to figure out the trip odometer etc.  If you’re out enjoying the scenery this bike has all the range that I could possibly want.  My next step is to do some climbing on Mt Shasta with my GPS to monitor elevation gain, loss average speed etc. I think I found a route that will give me 4500 feet of climbing in 16 miles. Calidaves 4.5 hour ride is more saddle time than I  can endure.  Also, in another post I mentioned the TP Link smart 15 amp energy monitoring switch.  You can monitor the charging power and turn it off over the internet. Model HS110.  Thanks for the reply. 

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: FX 7.2 Trail Range
« on: June 10, 2020, 08:08:57 AM »
My first ride on my brand new 2020 FX  used 45% to go 45 miles in 2 hours.  A few bursts to 60.  Mostly pavement. Probably 10 miles on gravel and rocky roads. Coming from a TW200 this thing is scary fast in eco.  I’m not planning on going near sport mode.  I used a custom setting of 15% torque with max regen most of the way. Why don’t the custom settings stick.  The next day after recharging it was back at default 40% torque from 15%?

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I just became a 2020 Zero FX owner. I have a bunch of TP Link HS110 network energy monitoring switches that plug into 110 volt wall outlets. They work well for controlling and monitoring the electric heaters that I have in my mountain vacation home from anywhere.  I purchased another for my Zero so I can turn off the charger without going out to my garage.  It will also allow for an independent monitoring of how many electrons I pump into the battery. Having an electric vehicle is a great way to learn all about the physics of batteries.
What is your battery capacity? It should take more power to charge it than its capacity due to inefficiency due to heat production during charging. 

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General Discussion / Re: Welcome!
« on: June 08, 2020, 07:16:55 AM »
I now am now a 2020 FX owner which I purchased from MotoCorsa in Portland yesterday.
I’m not finding a newer FX owner thread and I’m wondering if I should I start one?
If there is one could someone point me to it.  Otherwise I’ll start one.
Thank again to Crissa and others for their advice which led me to the purchase. 

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General Discussion / Re: Welcome!
« on: June 05, 2020, 12:18:29 AM »
I put down $2500 on my card to hold the bike.  No price at that time.  I didn’t sign anything so I assume my bank would reverse.because I was under the impression that a refundable deposit. 
Sales tax has to be paid in the state and address where the bike is registered. 
I love my TW.  I put 500 mostly off road  (logging) miles on it.  It was a good bike  to get back into riding after almost 40 years. Once I learned about zeros I had to have one to experience the quiet and to not terrify the wildlife. 
The dealer had the bike on order.  They had just sold the other one they had in stock.
I asked them to take $299 off the freight.  Waiting to hear back.
Thanks for

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General Discussion / Re: Welcome!
« on: June 04, 2020, 08:56:17 AM »
My bike is being uncrated in Portland.  I got the dealer to give me the out the door price on the 2020 0FX.  I'm hoping that Crissa of someone else can help me out with negotiating the price.  I know I'm going to pay the full factory $10,995 list.  The OOD price is $15,100 including $1495 Aegis Service Contract that I would never buy.  So minus Aegis OOD is $13,606.43. They want to hit me a $1299 freight charge which looks to me to be padded. Out of state sales tax and est. CA sales tax is $891+$55.  Title/license/registration and doc prep is $251+115. So it looks like I'm paying $13.606.  (I'm wondering if the est $55 tax might be sales tax on the Aegis service contract.)  Is a $1299 freight charge padded?  i'm wondering if i can get them to reduce the freight charge down to something closer to a grand.     At least they aren't trying to hit me with a dealer's prep charge.

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General Discussion / Re: Welcome!
« on: June 01, 2020, 09:33:29 AM »
You've done a lot riding in a short time.  I only have 500 miles on my 2019 t-dub mainly because Shasta is a vacation home. Haven't taken a spill yet other than getting stuck in soft rut. Plenty of blood from mountain bike riding on Mount Tamalpais in Marin County though. Including a slow-mo over the handle bars face plant that resulted in an ambulance ride. I was screwing around and for some stupid reason I decided to ride down this little bump which had a  wheel stopping rut at the bottom that I didn't see. Add don't do stupid sh*t to the list.  The ground is less than a second away. Hope to hear from the dealer tomorrow.  He has a $2500 down payment.  I am very happy to be buying something actually made within a 100 miles of where I live.  I guess most of the parts come from all over.  Take care and good luck to all of us.

-Chris

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General Discussion / Re: Welcome!
« on: May 30, 2020, 09:18:24 AM »
My 2019 TW is beige.  That's where the similarities end.  The TW is the basically the same bike as when it first came out in 1987 except for a disc brake and a starter motor. I'll post a photo of them side by side when I get the 0FX.
Thanks for alleviating my concerns about purchasing such a powerful bike.  I ride mainly to get out and explore.  Not disturbing the wildlife and being able to hear was too tempting. Mt Shasta has been heavily logged for well over a century so the roads are endless.  It's fun to try and navigate to various points of interest.  I usually end up turning around before I get lost and going back home to download the GPX file to see where I was and where I should have turned. There are paved forest service roads that you can drive a 100 mile loop and see only 3 or 4 other vehicles.  I love the Medicine Lake area which is a huge shield volcano with points of interest like Little Glass Mountain that is pretty much pure obsidian.  The view from Little Mount Hoffman is well worth ride or drive.

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