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Energica / Re: No DCFC!
« on: June 04, 2025, 09:46:40 PM »
Youtube video, take out battery
https://youtu.be/cNa336AWdwU?si=UbDwQYkVHHUfrTjB
https://youtu.be/cNa336AWdwU?si=UbDwQYkVHHUfrTjB
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Energica / Re: 22 Ribelle RS huge range loss after last update
« on: April 12, 2023, 10:45:07 PM »
Range ok now, same as Valen:
Software nr. not changed, but everything look ok again
Software nr. not changed, but everything look ok again
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Energica / Re: 22 Ribelle RS huge range loss after last update
« on: April 09, 2023, 06:42:45 PM »
I'm going wednesday for the update fix
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Energica / Re: 22 Ribelle RS huge range loss after last update
« on: February 05, 2023, 05:24:49 PM »My dealer phoned me regarding the FW.042 issue.Nice, will see if it corrects in time.
Originally they wanted me to come in and have it re-uploaded. Now not anymore, my dealer explained as follows.
The update deleted all long-term data the bike had stored for calculation of range. That should redeem itself after riding the bike for some distances.
So, when the weather turned better, I will see if the number get to the known ranges again.
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The wrong charge estimation when charging AC might be caused by some other issue. The cooling fan of my internal charger does not switch off after finish, so both could point toward a defect in the charger. My dealer will forward this issue again to Energica.
I don't have this problem, so it looks like the dealer is correct and the problem is caused by the charger.
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Energica / Re: 22 Ribelle RS huge range loss after last update
« on: February 05, 2023, 01:07:37 AM »Interesting
I drive the Energica always the same: Powersetting: max, Regen 1 speed: legal limit +20 km/h
Range was quite accurate, mostly because I always drive consistent.
On my way to the dealer: also correct.
On my way from the dealer (bike had the s/w update) -> estimate a lot lower.
Nothing else changed, still the same driver, same drive style, same charging (90% of the time AC load before drive to 100% and balancing) 10% Fast DC loading.
So my conclusion: software introduced.
Now I drive on the SOC not the estimate range.
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Energica / Re: 22 Ribelle RS huge range loss after last update
« on: February 05, 2023, 12:59:53 AM »We kind of got off course here, thought this thread was about vehicle range, not key fob range.
The topic title is not correct however, the estimated range is not correct after update.
The vehicle range is still the same.
And I can confirm that, the estimate range was quite accurate, but after updating to s/w v42 it's not anymore, but a lot less.
Like my picture: 49% SOC estimate range: 40 km, complete off. I drove 62 km and still had 9% SOC. (And it was ok before update)
So something is changed in the calculation, it just not correct anymore.
So we arrived at the update and not the real drive range, and so the keyless problem popped up, also introduced with a software update.
Conclusion could be that the updates from Energica could be better tested before going live.
On the firmware which was on the bike when I bought here both problems: range/keyless were not there, introduced in the firmware.
Me too.73, -Frank- PA2FB
73, -Don- AA6GA/6 (RV trip) Salton Sea, CA
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Energica / Re: 22 Ribelle RS huge range loss after last update
« on: February 03, 2023, 09:21:24 PM »The interference of other senders must have something to do with it.
In my household all this operates on 433 Mhz:
Garage door opener
Ceiling fan contoller
Kitchen exhaust fan
Window shutters controller
Me, as a Ham-radio amateur
and yes 433 is included in the bandplan https://www.arrl.org/band-plan 
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Energica / Re: 22 Ribelle RS huge range loss after last update
« on: February 03, 2023, 05:35:29 PM »When did you last change the key fob battery? Maybe it's just a weird coincidental to the firmware change?
Nope, key fob battery just replaced 3 weeks ago, problem still there.
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Energica / Re: 22 Ribelle RS huge range loss after last update
« on: February 03, 2023, 01:24:48 PM »Ok, so.. this key fob not in range message.
Is that just a bug in the software or is it piss poor range on the fob and it actually does NOT see it?
Ive seen that as well and am wondering what it is because nothing else changed to cause that. Im still sitting on the bike and the key is still in my jacket pocket!
Aaron
I suppose it's a software bug. I driven 1,5 year without this message, after upgrading to a new FW version (v32 I think, not sure anymore) the "key out of range" message came, several times.
The first time you think, sh*t lost my key !!! but after a few times you get use to this message
It not a real problem, click ok and message is gone, the bike doesn't stop or anything else, so annoying but no problem.
In that FW the "pincode" was also introduced (A bike with keyless option, can also be started with a pincode if you forget the key).
So maybe the bike checks more often if the key is there? No idea.
Sometimes I got the message 5 or 6 times on a drive to work, sometimes I drive 3 to 4 times the same road to work no warning message. No idea where the trigger is coming from. (maybe other cars nearby?)
So it was not a problem, but now it is.
In the new FW the message just pops up ounce and the the little key pops up in de screen, less annoying. (key symbol is new)
Everything still works ok and keyless function with starting the bike also, so I don't think it's a range issue.
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Energica / Re: 22 Ribelle RS huge range loss after last update
« on: February 03, 2023, 01:12:01 PM »Is the software version in the menu somewhere?
Yes: Settings -> about:
There you find it.
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Energica / Re: 22 Ribelle RS huge range loss after last update
« on: February 02, 2023, 01:07:11 PM »
Hi Jürgen,
Commuting is no problem in the cold (well sometimes I miss the heat of the engine when waiting for a traffic light )
The performance off the batterie is also ok in the cold. So no problems there. (I do not drive with snow or ice conditions)
Keyless can't bij deactivated, there is no other way to start the bike. The message is annoying, but thats it. No the alert message comes ounce and then the key symbol. So I disregard it.
For me it was the other way around, I ordered a Ribelle with a key, but delivery was difficult (covid time) and the dealer called me, I've got one but is has the keyless option, so that was a no brainer, I'll take it
And it's handy, key in the pocket. Now I have it, I like it. Key always stays in my pocket with zipper.
I do not notice other behaviour with the charging estimation, that seems to be ok and is a match.
Ride safe!
Commuting is no problem in the cold (well sometimes I miss the heat of the engine when waiting for a traffic light
)The performance off the batterie is also ok in the cold. So no problems there. (I do not drive with snow or ice conditions)
Keyless can't bij deactivated, there is no other way to start the bike. The message is annoying, but thats it. No the alert message comes ounce and then the key symbol. So I disregard it.
For me it was the other way around, I ordered a Ribelle with a key, but delivery was difficult (covid time) and the dealer called me, I've got one but is has the keyless option, so that was a no brainer, I'll take it
And it's handy, key in the pocket. Now I have it, I like it. Key always stays in my pocket with zipper.
I do not notice other behaviour with the charging estimation, that seems to be ok and is a match.
Ride safe!
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Energica / Re: 22 Ribelle RS huge range loss after last update
« on: February 01, 2023, 01:19:59 AM »
I'm also on v42 now and can confirm the range prediction is not correct anymore. (Ribelle 2020 version)
To bad on v41 is was rather correct.
2 pics, went to work after the update next morning: 49% SOC range 40km
normal not a problem.
Range to work is about 63 km, ok just went anyway, we will see. (It was never a problem, so just go
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Did normal ride, 120 km/h on the highway ans indeed no problem.
On arrival: 8% SOC range 7 km.
So range prediction is just f*cked up in v42 cann't trust it anymore, no I'm driving on SOC.
I;ve keyless option, this should be better but "key out of range" Message is still there.
Difference is now I see it once and after the message cleared be pushing ok, the second time you get not the message but a little key symbol in the display.
Sp problem still there, message behavior is changed.
To bad on v41 is was rather correct.
2 pics, went to work after the update next morning: 49% SOC range 40km
normal not a problem.Range to work is about 63 km, ok just went anyway, we will see. (It was never a problem, so just go
)Did normal ride, 120 km/h on the highway ans indeed no problem.
On arrival: 8% SOC range 7 km.
So range prediction is just f*cked up in v42 cann't trust it anymore, no I'm driving on SOC.
I;ve keyless option, this should be better but "key out of range" Message is still there.
Difference is now I see it once and after the message cleared be pushing ok, the second time you get not the message but a little key symbol in the display.
Sp problem still there, message behavior is changed.
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Energica / Re: Seat lock No-Key hack. Ribelle
« on: February 14, 2022, 01:15:21 PM »
Which dealer? Is that a freaking push button? Does he have any more? Mine is a thing you turn. Push button would be nice.
Yes push button, fits and works perfect on the Ribelle.
The dealer is in The Netherlands:
https://electricmotorcycles.nl/
or if you want https://www.facebook.com/electricmotorcycles.nl/
You can send him a mail, he had more in stock when I was there.
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Energica / Re: Seat lock No-Key hack. Ribelle
« on: February 14, 2022, 01:13:49 AM »
My dealer installed it also on delivery. Best mod ever (Also Ribelle)
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Energica / Re: If you have Key Less Start Avoid this Firmware
« on: May 06, 2021, 11:50:52 PM ».... As delivered the diagnostic software didn't work as one headlight didn't work and there was no fault code showing. ..
Had the same issue here, no fault code 1 headlight didn't work. It's replaced under warranty
And yes they are proud on the code??
The Energica Software has reached 1.1M of program lines (645,000 program lines only for the VCU), over 200,000 more than a Space Shuttle!
Well, that's not for advertising, it means you have 1.1M lines where then can be bugs
In software, less is better. No idea who found this a good idea to advertise with