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General Discussion / Re: HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO CHARGE A 72 VOLT LITHIUM BATTERY?
« on: June 24, 2020, 12:06:55 AM »
Here is one of the old batteries... boy those suckers where heavy. The bike handles way different now with the -50kg of weight... that is more than my wife weighs! lol


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General Discussion / Re: HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO CHARGE A 72 VOLT LITHIUM BATTERY?
« on: June 24, 2020, 12:04:56 AM »
It is an external charging unit but I don't think it is the only factor of how the moto charges as it feeds into some sort of programable control unit. This Control Unit seems to be the key to the whole moto.

I have attached a few photos of the charge and the Control Unit in the moto.

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General Discussion / Re: HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO CHARGE A 72 VOLT LITHIUM BATTERY?
« on: June 23, 2020, 11:08:59 PM »
Yeah, I really just don't want to do damage to battery. When I first picked up the bike a few months ago it charged fine and the charger started blinking green and I disconnected it. The second time I went to charge it the LED never turned green and it over charged the GEL batteries to the point the bulged and probably killed them completely but they where already 4 years old and on there last leg. I was hoping to get a years worth of use out of them but ended up only getting about 2 months of use and that was charging them every time I wanted to go to town. With the new Lithium battery I was able to using the moto for about 3 weeks before it needed its first charge yesterday but like I said I have ZERO faith in this charging unit and I know Lithium batteries can explode so I am being overly paranoid about it now.

So yesterday afternoon I put in on the charger for the first time with the new battery. Started at around 1:30pm, then at 8pm I disconnected it as it still had not turned green and shut off. The charger has a fan in it. This morning I reconnected it to see if it would charge more but it just flashed the green LED and the fan never kicked in so it must be fully charged.

I did ready that new Lithium batteries have to settle in or some such thing so perhaps it is just a break in period and after a few charges it will be fine and will automatically kick off when it is fully charged.

This is my first electric vehicle after having petroleum vehicles all my life but I am very glad I found this forum as everyone is so helpful here!   :)

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General Discussion / Re: Electric Motorcycle Owners Map
« on: June 23, 2020, 10:34:55 PM »
Great idea with the map!! Added my Energy Motion Ocean!

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General Discussion / Re: HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO CHARGE A 72 VOLT LITHIUM BATTERY?
« on: June 23, 2020, 10:12:41 PM »
Thanks again for the reply Crissa.

It is a 72 Volt 30 Ah new lithium battery. The charging unit is a Black Box that only has on it: Battery Charger P/N:C600. Other information on it says: "72V6A" So I would say a 72 volt, 6 amp charging unit.

As for the Control Unit inside the Motorcycle I have know idea what model it is or how to program it other than it has a connector that you can attach a computer to it and reprogram it which is what they did back at the shop in Medellin. Not sure if they changed anything on the Battery Charger itself but it does not look like it so my guess is everything was reprogrammed on the Control Unit and recalibrated and setup for the new Lithium battery that was installed in place of the old GEL batteries.

http://energymotion.net/Pages/p.ocean.htm

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General Discussion / Re: HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO CHARGE A 72 VOLT LITHIUM BATTERY?
« on: June 23, 2020, 07:41:12 PM »
Well I just reconnected to charger to let it charge some more and it was flashing green and would not charge anymore so I guess the battery magically finished charging overnight on its own.  :o

If only it would magically charge every time I would save a lot of money on electricity. lol

I was told by the manufacture that it would not charge if it is full but that charger still scares me as I had hoped that last night it would have kicked off on its own after close to 7 hours of charging. I don't think the battery was completely dead as it was still showing one out of 4 bars on the indicator.

That is the other problem I have, the indicator on the moto only shows a 0-4 battery bar and no % or time till dead. When I drive down to town it will show 3-4 bars when the battery is low because it has regenerative charging (at least that is my theory) but when coming back up from the town to my house it will drop down to 1 or 0 and if I have the wife on the back and we have some groceries it will start flashing a blank box around where the bars normally are, which I think means its about to die. If it gets too low the motorcycle will just shut off. I can then flip the circuit breaker off and back on and it will show one bar again and I was able to get back to the house (but had to make the wife walk up). The odometer can't even help me as it resets the Km every time the moto is shut off so there is no running total or trip meter I can use to keep track of distance on it.


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General Discussion / Re: HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO CHARGE A 72 VOLT LITHIUM BATTERY?
« on: June 23, 2020, 07:27:39 PM »
Thank you TheRan.... didn't think to look at the manufactures website as the last time I looked there it was still showing details on the GEL battery bike so they must have updated the site recently... Good call!

http://energymotion.net/Pages/p.ocean.htm

So looks like I should put it back on the charger for a bit longer and watch for it to turn green... hopefully... :-)


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General Discussion / Re: HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO CHARGE A 72 VOLT LITHIUM BATTERY?
« on: June 23, 2020, 06:32:35 PM »
Ok, Thx Crissa. I had it on the charger for close to 7 hours yesterday and it never turned green like it is supposed to so I disconnected it as I didn't want to explode the new battery pack. I will check the voltage of the battery today and see if it is at full : "A fully charged 72 volt pack is 84.0 volts"

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General Discussion / Re: HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO CHARGE A 72 VOLT LITHIUM BATTERY?
« on: June 23, 2020, 07:00:20 AM »
I was told that they reprogrammed the control unit system so that the same charger works with the new battery

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General Discussion / HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO CHARGE A 72 VOLT LITHIUM BATTERY?
« on: June 23, 2020, 05:34:23 AM »
Had a brand new lithium battery installed in my Energy Motion Ocean e-moto that replaced the 6 12 volt GEL batteries. They tell me that the charger will automatically stop charging when the battery is full. Not sure how much I trust them or the charger since it never "automatically" stopped charging on the GEL batteries but that might have been because they where very old and could no longer fully charge?

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General Discussion / Re: 72v Lithium options for my Moto?
« on: May 17, 2020, 02:33:48 AM »
OK, thanks for the replies. Hopefully soon Colombia will open back up for business and I can have it done and get it over with. Might as well have them install the LED light kit while they have it to conserve a little more power...

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General Discussion / 72v Lithium options for my Moto?
« on: May 16, 2020, 11:59:20 PM »
So I bought a nice used Energy Motion Ocean Electric motorcycle that is now about 4 years old. It has 6 12v Gel batteries with a combined Ah of about 30.

The Gel batteries are on their last leg and the company here in Colombia wants 3.7 million pesos ($946 at today's exchange rate) to change it out with one Lithium battery with the same 30Ah 72V rating which will also shave off about 50kg of weight off the motorcycle.

Their price included the battery, installation, reprogramming the control unit and charger and warranty.

It there a better option out there for me to go? Getting things here to Colombia is very hard.

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Other Electric Motorcycles / Re: Energy Motion - Ocean model
« on: February 14, 2020, 01:44:17 AM »
Just wanted to let everyone know that I took ownership of the Energy Motion Ocean yesterday and it was delivered to my house this morning. So far I have taken "Azuleja*" up the mountain road to a trout farm to buy ...  some trout of course! And I have ridden it down to the town to pick some cement and mixing sand (just mall bags). I must say this thing is a lot of fun! I was use to riding Harley's and then here in Colombia my Honda CB190R... riding this is totally different but only took me a few seconds to adjust to how it handles and rides. 

It is not as fast of the line as I thought it would be but maybe that is due to a governor or how the transmission works since it is an automatic?

The batteries seem fine as it still shows Full Charge after the two trips and the first trip was up a very steep road. I will post more info as I use the E-Moto more.

*Azuleja is the name given to the moto by the original owner.... who am I to change it ... :-)

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Other Electric Motorcycles / Re: Energy Motion - Ocean model
« on: February 09, 2020, 08:27:12 PM »
Quote from: enaef on February 09, 2020, 03:58:38 PM
Hi there

Although I will not be able to help with your question, I looked up your bike. Without speaking Spanish I managed to understand the technical details to some degree. Automatic Browser translation also helped.
Do you have an idea how healthy the battery is? How many times it has been drained, recharged and under what condition?

Who is the maker of the bike?

I hope, all goes well with the papers and you can enjoy the bike as soon as possible ...  :)

Thank you for the reply, after 6 years here in Colombia and studying Spanish for a bit longer I am not to bad at reading and speaking it... like I tell everyone here, I only know two languages, "Bad English and Mal Espanol" :-)

If I believe what the owner tells me about the care of the battery(s) they should be in very good condition. He said he only travels 8km a day so it hasn't been through that many charge cycles. He said the factory where he bought will replace them, he said there are 6, so 6 -12v batteries for 72v, and that they would charge 1.6 million pesos ($468.66 at today exchange rate) or I could replace them myself for about 1.4 million pesos. I did find a lithium battery, 72v 40ah here in Colombia but it is over 6.7 million pesos and I am not sure I really need the extra 10ah for local driving as I live close to town.

I am not sure if "Energy Motion" is the actual factory that makes them here or if they are some sort of Chinese import... it is very hard to find information here in Colombia even on Google.

My hope is to figure all these things out and then I will be able to share my knowledge with others to make someone else life easier :-)

I am told the new "tarjeta de propiedad" (owners card) has been issued in my name so it is looking good for my purchase of the e-moto this coming Tuesday and I will post an update shortly there after.

 

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Other Electric Motorcycles / Re: Energy Motion - Ocean model
« on: February 09, 2020, 08:12:01 PM »
Quote from: Crissa on February 09, 2020, 06:27:33 AM
Good luck!

I have no suggestions but wanted you to feel listened to ^-^

-Crissa

Thank you for making me smile this morning Crissa! :-)

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