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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / SR/F New Rider First Impressions
« on: February 09, 2020, 12:28:16 AM »
First 50 miles on SR/F. Obviously these are only early impressions:

- overall happy
- doesn’t feel quite as dramatically different of riding experience from previous Zeros as I expected
- at 5’11, 235lbs, I’m not thrilled with the riding position... more forward than I expected, I prefer more of an alignment between feet, hips, shoulders etc. Feels strained on lower back to lean so far forward
- pegs a little too high
- handle bars a little too forward
- rear brake feels mushy and soft without much bite
- front brakes huge improvement lots of bite
- rear tire instills a lot more confidence under acceleration
- looks awesome
- headlight led game changer at night
- I feel street mode is just right for daily riding, equal to sport in previous zero bikes

Overall happy with the purchase, despite a few initial disappointments

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: The SR/S 2.24.2020
« on: January 28, 2020, 10:13:53 AM »
Well since I just put my deposit down and ordered the SRF, now I’m wondering if I should wait a month and see what the options are  :o

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Energica / Re: Esse Esse 9 at 621lbs or 591lbs, either way, too heavy?
« on: January 22, 2020, 05:37:21 PM »
Thanks for the endorsement course reminders   ::)
I understand that with enough technique any weight is possible in tight urban settings.
But I think you really have to love the look and build spec of the energica to ride a 600lb naked style in that setting. I landed on the zero sr/f standard and put in my order yesterday.

If energica ever makes a bike in the 400s with a bit less power and range, smaller lighter battery configuration I’d spend a lot of money on it.

I genuinely was on the fence when I posted, thanks again for the insights

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Energica / Re: Esse Esse 9 at 621lbs or 591lbs, either way, too heavy?
« on: January 21, 2020, 01:14:58 AM »
I’m approaching 50 and have never dropped a bike on the street. Off road, plenty :-) But I’ve also not rode a bike over 500 lbs in an urban/downtown daily setting. The SS9 weighs more than my Honda Africa Twin Adventure Sport - a bike I LOVE for touring and off-road. That just has me a bit spooked for downtown and urban setting.

Lots to consider thanks again for all the comments.

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Energica / Re: Esse Esse 9 at 621lbs or 591lbs, either way, too heavy?
« on: January 20, 2020, 06:36:18 PM »
Thanks for feedback keep it coming. To answer the question, I guess I’m used to a heavy bike for long distance touring to absorb the road. And a more nimble lighter bike for downtown and urban riding. For me in the past, the electric use case has been the latter, not the former. So I’m just trying to rationalize the SS9 use case, Which seems more cafe racer /scrambler style. Not touring. I just love the look so much! I’m trying to talk myself into it LOL.

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Energica / Re: Esse Esse 9 at 621lbs or 591lbs, either way, too heavy?
« on: January 20, 2020, 11:44:07 AM »
Don, the SR/F standard version is 485lbs

I’m encouraged to hear that you have not experienced awkward handling a slow speed’s. The available reviews all seem to quote the heavy weight that is reasonably high up as a factor in downtown urban riding with this bike.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: SR/F Standard vs Premium - which to choose and why?
« on: January 20, 2020, 10:49:49 AM »
Thanks for the feedback. I do ride larger motorcycles and I am an experienced rider. So it won’t be a jump to move to this bike. But to your point, I do wish they offered the S/RF with a bit lighter weight battery version and more storage, I will be all over that.

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Energica / Esse Esse 9 at 621lbs or 591lbs, either way, too heavy?
« on: January 20, 2020, 10:44:40 AM »
I love the beautiful design of the Esse Esse 9, and there is no question that the trim level is higher than zero sr/f or the hd LiveWire. On the topics of appearance, equipment, range, power, or charging speed, Energica wins. But the weight! It probably has so much extra of these things that it outweighs the competition by 100+ pounds to come in at 590-620lbs depending on old battery or new. Throughout the years I have ridden heavy motorcycles. And my large adventure bikes with high seats are my favorite for long distance road trips and off-road fun. This bike outweighs even those monsters.

I’m just very curious for those that transitioned into this motorcycle what the handling is like at slow speeds in the city, where I do most of my riding. I’ve never dropped a bike on the street before, and I am a cautious older rider. But I’m also not looking to push my luck.

I’m leaning towards a new zero SR/F purchase primarily based on the weight issue alone. Has anyone else struggled with this decision based on weight?

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / SR/F Standard vs Premium - which to choose and why?
« on: January 20, 2020, 10:32:39 AM »
New member first post. I’ve owned a few different zeros. I always historically purchased the smallest lightest battery versions possible. I ride these bikes for my short work commute and for fun on weekends. To me, the killer version of these 300lbs ish configurations is that they are so easy to ride, flickable, with storage etc. I never come close to using all the range. I just plug them in at night.

I do want the SR/F for the look, new tech, etc. I’m buying one. My instinct is to buy the ABSOLUTE lightest version - Standard at 485 lbs. However, I suppose 13lbs more is not much for the Premium. I don’t mind spending the extra money, but it seems to me that the bar ends, windscreen, and heated grips are not priorities for me. Nor is the added charging capability. Just curious of others have gone through this decision?

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