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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Engine Failure Then Fire
« on: December 08, 2019, 05:55:46 AM »
I think the scary difference between gas bikes burning and electric ones is you can kind of predict when a gas bike is going to burn. It happens right away when you crash, or there is an external ignition source. Maybe the batteries could ignite the gas?

My bike burned 5 hours after it broke down on the highway. I had absolutely no idea that was going to happen, especially since I chose not to charge the bike that night.

Smoke detectors in the garage are probably a good idea, generally speaking. If mine hadn't gone off, things would have been much, much worse (not that the smoke damage is going to be cheap to fix, unfortunately).

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Engine Failure Then Fire
« on: December 04, 2019, 06:35:04 AM »
This is probably my last post for a while, I don't think I'll be getting any new/relevant info for a bit.

Talked to Zero a few times today. I am very impressed with their level of concern. They are sending a technician to pick up the bike tomorrow and hopefully we'll learn that this was just a freak occurrence. They did confirm that my bike had been serviced under the recall so that issue shouldn't have been the problem.

All in all, I'm just glad I'm ok. I can't say the desire to own an electric motorcycle has died; it was an amazing bike while I had it. This does sound like a really rare thing from everything I've been reading.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Engine Failure Then Fire
« on: December 04, 2019, 12:16:14 AM »
Ok, more context. My brain is still a little fried, but I’m putting the pieces back together.

First, the recall I was talking about is what I think happened to to motor. Apparently some 2014s have a problem where the stator comes in contact with the rotor at high RPM (sounds weird, don’t think about electrics having RPM, but it’s an internal thing). If this bike was recalled, the guy who sold it to me never mentioned it and I didn’t really think to look. I registered it in CA, the VIN didn’t have any issues reported, so I figured I was in the clear. I did have the bike looked at for things like tires/brakes/shocks, but the shop didn’t know anything about the motor.

As for the fire. No, it wasn’t plugged in. When it died I was at about 40% battery.

As for Zero’s response? I called them this morning and the rep seemed genuinely concerned at the situation. She said she would talk to management and get back to me. So far I’m satisfied with their response.

Overall I’m just glad I didn’t 1) die on the highway, and 2) die in a fire. I guess I’m pretty lucky...

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Engine Failure Then Fire
« on: December 03, 2019, 02:56:29 PM »
Insurance? Not for the motorcycle, no. Basic collision, lots of medical/personal injury, enough to cover damage I could cause to others. But I bought this one used and figured, if I crash, it's gone.

I never really considered it might spontaneously combust... an oversight, I see that now.

I was planning to ride this one for a year or two then upgrade to an SR/F or something like that. I bought this one for $5k, figured it might sell for $3k, and I'd be out very little for two years of learning how to ride an electric. Now I'm out $5k. I can handle the loss, but I'd hope Zero will at least take the bike back and inspect it to find out what went wrong both in the initial failure and the subsequent fire.

But I won't hold my breath about that happening. We'll see.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Engine Failure Then Fire
« on: December 03, 2019, 02:09:46 PM »
Took a picture while waiting for it to cool enough to wheel into the driveway. I'll take more tomorrow, my neighbors are probably just now getting back to sleep and I don't want to freak anyone out by using a flash.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Engine Failure Then Fire
« on: December 03, 2019, 01:35:33 PM »
Hello everyone, I've been meaning to register but lurking as a guest for a while. I guess now is the time...

My... former... motorcycle: 2014 Zero SR. Bought it used a few months ago and loved every minute of riding it until the very end.

So today I was riding home from work, commute was going well, when suddenly it felt like my rear brakes kicked on hard and the bike made a huge shudder. I pulled over to the side of the road as the bike ground to a halt. I waited a few minutes trying to figure out what could have gone wrong. Tires looked fine, brakes looked normal. After learning that a tow wouldn't be available for two hours, I pushed the bike up to a fast food parking lot (only a mile or two from my house) and waited. I could have pushed the bike the rest of the 1-2 miles home, but it was harder to push than before.

Once I got it home, I learned that there was once a recall on Zero SRs from when mine was made (February 2014). Ok, fine, emailed Zero because their customer service office was closed. Figured I'd deal with it in the morning. Bummed, I went about the rest of my evening.

Then about an hour ago, my smoke alarm started going off. The one right next to my garage... Opened the garage and got bombarded with thick, black smoke. Opened the garage door and ran outside to find my poor Zero in six-foot flames in the corner of my garage. Panicked, yelled for my wife to grab the fire extinguisher while I ran for the hose. Doused the thing until the flames died, then kept dousing it for half an hour. Called the fire department, they said there was nothing they could do at this point. No visible damage in the garage, maybe water damage, we'll see in the morning. The battery is still sparking, but it's in the driveway and I'm watching it like a hawk (might not sleep tonight).

So that's my story and why I felt compelled to post. Thanks for letting me vent while I wait for my poor little buddy to spark up again before I hose it down.

Anyone have an idea about what I should do next?

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