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Sounds like a great idea. You would think the designers would figure this common sense stuff out before it ever hits the street.You said your name was SwapNut right? Well of course, no wonder. I just comes natural for ya.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: New to me 2021 S Charging Questions
« on: November 20, 2023, 04:41:59 AM »
This topic comes up every so often, but it's okay because some things need repeating -
When I first got my "S" the previous owner was charging the bike with a 16 gauge computer cord. After a very short time charging, it was too hot to touch. I replaced the 16 with a 14 gauge cord, and it was still hotter than I thought it should be, so I replaced it with a 7 foot 12 gauge cord. A network switch turns it on and off, and after six hours the cord is only warm to the touch. It's scheduled to charge from midnight to six in the morning, cuz I get an EV discount. If it's above 30 % at midnight, six hours is a full charge. If it needs longer to charge it can pick it up the next night. It all seems to balance out. I also keep an extra 10 foot 12 gauge charging cord with the bike just in case I need a few electrons to get back home. Just like a 20 amp outlet holds the plug much tighter, a 12 gauge cord is quite firm on the bikes charging pins. A tight connection equals less heat. Here’s a link for the cool cord that will solve your hot problem.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078V9K14V?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Charging cables burning up.
« on: September 14, 2023, 03:44:05 AM »
When I first got my "S" the previous owner was charging the bike with a 16 gauge computer cord. After a very short time charging, it was too hot to touch. I replaced the 16 with a 14 gauge cord, and it was still hotter than I thought it should be, so I replaced it with a 7 foot 12 gauge cord. It now go's to a network switch and is only warm to the touch. It's scheduled to charge from midnight to 6 in the morning, and if it's above 30 % at midnight 6 hours is a full charge. If it needs longer to charge it can pick it up the next night. I also keep a 10 foot 12 gauge cord with the bike just because. Just like a 20 amp outlet holds the plug much tighter, a 12 gauge cord is quite firm in the bike.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: SR/F Water Fail
« on: December 29, 2022, 01:05:35 PM »
Hey Cas,
Not a bean, that's great. I'm talking with an attorney here. Checking my options. Take care with that covid. Ten days of misery times two here. Hope you feel better soon.
Ed

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: SR/F Water Fail
« on: December 29, 2022, 05:27:16 AM »
Cas,
Any money out of your pocket to make this right? If so, can I ask how much?
Ed

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: SR/F Water Fail
« on: December 22, 2022, 02:48:16 PM »
I totally agree, and I tried to reason with them using ideas just like that, but they wouldn't budge. All the accessories terminate at a two pin bullet connector, so I unplugged it and took the bike in. That's when they laid the law down. In the end, I left the strobes and brake flasher mounted with the wires hanging, and passed the entrance exam. I'm happy to be at this point where I can enjoy the bike. But it's been a long, time consuming, and very expensive road to get here. And unfortunately it started the day after I bought the bike, with only 87 miles on the odometer. It's now my dream machine, but it will never see another drop of water for as long as I own it.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: SR/F Water Fail
« on: December 15, 2022, 10:06:50 AM »
A much louder horn. Amber lane splitting strobes. Strobe then solid brake light. LED headlight. Phone charger, part of the holder. Accessory outlet. I know this sounds like a lot of current, but it's under 10 amps even when laying on the horn. And all wiring is pro and in looms.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: SR/F Water Fail
« on: December 14, 2022, 11:50:46 AM »
My Zero will never see a drop of water again for as long as I own it. Less than a year after purchase, it was a hot summer day when I gave it it’s first wash and rinse with an ordinary garden hose. Then after hours in the hot sun, I pushed it into the garage at sundown. The next day the warning lights were flashing, but when the ready light would come on for a split second, it would go. So every time I stopped, I would have to wait for the ready light. Forum people said it would dry over time and be okay, but three weeks later something blew up, and nearly tossed me off the bike. Once again, this happened the day after I washed it. I took it to EGMS for repair, but they would not look at the bike until I COMPLETELY removed all the added accessories. I removed everything and took the bike in, then waited, and waited, and waited. Every week brought another call telling me that something else needed to be replaced. They had the bike for months. I sent a letter to Zero, asking if they were going to cover this water created failure. They told me that the electrical accessories I had added caused the problem, and they would not cover it at all. I installed the accessories weeks after I bought the bike, and it failed the day after I washed it. All the accessories were reinstalled as soon as I got it back, and the bike has been working fine for over a year now with all accessories installed. This failure was obviously caused by water intrusion, but Zero will not take responsibility. Just under $3500.00. It’s not fair. It’s not right. But what can I do?  So many people ask me about my bike, and the first thing I tell them is “buyer beware”, and they should consider buying something other than a Zero. I’ve had many issues with this bike, this was just the worst.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Signal Connectors
« on: July 20, 2022, 05:49:45 AM »
Thanks but no 3D printer here.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Signal Connectors
« on: July 18, 2022, 08:56:12 AM »
I did an image search for connectors, but never thought to specify the number of pins. Thanks for the tip.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Signal Connectors
« on: July 16, 2022, 02:30:15 AM »
Thanks, that really looks right. I couldn't even come close to finding them. Samples? Let me figure out who I am, and who my parts manager is, ha. I'll order a couple from your second link. Thanks again for the lead.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Signal Connectors
« on: July 15, 2022, 02:19:04 AM »
Anyone ever needed these connectors for the turn signals. And if so, where did you find them. Looking for a source please. 2 male and 2 female for the project.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Turn signal relay
« on: July 03, 2022, 08:23:52 PM »
Thanks Eric, I found many posts about this subject, but not the simple answer. Thank you for the simple answer. Now I can put this bike back together and be done with it.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Turn signal relay
« on: July 03, 2022, 09:18:25 AM »
I have a 2018S and the original signal relay stopped working. I dug around in my relay box and found two electronic relays. I plugged the large one in and it blew the fuse. I plugged the small one in and it hyper flashes. I stopped in at EGMS and asked them if they could look up the original part. The guy told me to pick up a generic one at an auto parts store, so I bought two, the regular and the loud, and they both blew the fuse. The hyper flash relay is back temporarily, but I could use some help finding a part that will work. And why are they not all wired the same? Who's bright idea was it to change the wiring, thats JPS.

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There's your problem. You're looking at the check engine light, and it doesn't have an engine.
 I've spent so much money repairing my '18 S, I'm hoping and praying every day that it just keeps going. Electric cars yes absolutely, never had a major problem with any of them. Electric "motor" cycles, I'm not sold yet, and that's from my experience (with this company).

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