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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: front pulley trashed
« on: December 04, 2024, 06:36:08 AM »
I removed the pulley and reinstalled it according to the service manual.  I cleaned the splines and screw with a wire brush, brake parts cleaner, and clean rags and I ran a tap into the shaft to get the old Loctite out of the threads and then used brake parts cleaner there also and let everything dry.  I put a bead of Loctite 680 on the splines in the pulley like the drawing in the service manual, positioned the spacer and installed the pulley.  I put the Loctite 271 on the Torx screw, installed the top hat washer and the screw and torqued it to 72 NM.  I don't have a old or extra belt so I used channel locks clamped to the pulley with a nylon web strap wrapped around the pulley.  This let me have 2 hands to use the torque wrench.  I let it sit overnight so the Loctite could set up and then installed the swing arm and wheel the next day.  Everything seems fine so far; sounds nice and quiet on the track stand.  We have snow on the ground so it may be a while befoe I ride it much.  Thanks for everybody's help, especially telling me about there being an official service manual now.  I'll be checking everything frequently once riding regularly again.  Here's hoping it is good for 5 or 10 k.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: front pulley trashed
« on: November 28, 2024, 07:16:26 AM »
Wow.  I sure appreciate all this informnation.  Thank you very much.  I just got the Zero Service Manual.  I wasn't aware there was one and had been using the unofficial manual.

I got the new pulley and spacer and unfortunately I didn't read your helpful posts before I worked on it today. 

The new pulley slipped on nicely and doesn't appear to have any slop or play in it.  The spacer matches the back surface of the pulley but its I.D. is larger than the motor shaft O.D..  I used some red and tacky grease to get it aligned on the pulley for installation.  Otherwise, it could be tightened off-center.  This seems a little jankity to me but that is the way it is.  I didn't use anything on the splines - when I took the pulley off before installing the chain kit, it was clean, i.e., no evidence of any Loctite 680 on it.  It came off with no pressure or tools needed.  I wonder if the use of Loctite 680 is a new thing.  I used blue loctite on the T50 M10X25-10.9 countersunk head screw.  I was able to torque it to 50 NM.  When I trid to torque it to 60, it was too difficult to hold the pulley and I was concerned I might damage the torx fitting.  It is really awkward doing it through the swing arm pivot holes in the frame and difficult to hold the pulley.  I don't have an old drive belt to make the tool the manual shows for holding the pulley.  I think the drive belts are pretty expensive.

I'm going to take it for a short test drive tomorrow to check it out.  I'll get some Loctite 680 and work on a way of holding the pulley better and go back through the process of installing the pulley again.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: front pulley trashed
« on: November 20, 2024, 09:23:33 PM »
I'll try to measure the shaft splines and what's left of the pulley splines when I get the new pulley.  I still don't understand how this happened.  Maybe there was just a problem with the pulley.  I'll compare it to the new one and see if there is anything different.

My plan is to use a new torx 10mm screw (new from Zero) with the new pulley and torque it to 60 NM.  I don't have a torque spec from Zero for it.  60 NM is the torque spec for my KTM 350 10mm countershaft sprocket screw, unless anybody knows what the spec actually is.

I didn't use any loctite or anything otherwise on the shaft and splines when I put the pulley on.  What do others think?  When I removed it for the chain kit, it just slipped off and there didn't appear to be anything on the shaft or splines.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: front pulley trashed
« on: November 16, 2024, 06:44:18 AM »
The dealer did tell me when he looked it up, that it called for the 18T.  The parts manual I have (think I downloaded it from here or from Zero) calles for 20T and the part number is stamped into the part.  I prefer the 20T and that is what I ordered.

I didn't know there was a dongle for adjusting the speedo. Back when I installed the chain kit, Zero told me to take it to the dealer to get the speedo correct; they wouldn't give me the password to change it in the interface when I connect a laptop to it.  I think someone did eventually post the password on this forum but I haven't gone back to try using it.

When I put it back on after the chain kit, I used the newer Torx screw (rather than the original allen head) and used blue loctite.  It was snug when I removed it and there was no evidence of it being loose, e.g., paint scraped off.

When I get the replacement installed I think I will check the screw every few thousand miles just in case.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / front pulley trashed
« on: November 14, 2024, 03:51:39 AM »

My 2017 FX (purchased new in 2019) has about 14,000 miles.  I had the chain kit on it for about a year and then put the belt back on when the chain was worn out.  I heard some unusual noise, kind of clicking like, particularly when regen would kick in for a week or 2.  I checked belt tension and watched the wheel and belt with the bike on the track stand and the motor running.  Unfortunatley, I didn't see anything.  It failed on the way home the other day and I found that all the splines in the pulley were nearly gone.  You might be able to see it in the photo.  The shaft on the motor has a little damage but I think a new pulley will still work.  I was at the dealer today to order it for $101+ and was told it may take 2 or 3 weeks.

Just wondered if anyone else has had this problem.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: FXS 2019 doesnt charge
« on: December 04, 2023, 02:57:16 AM »
A new fuse didn't make any difference.

The piece with the spring that holds the fuse looks like new and I used a light to look inside the fuse holder and don't see any corrosion or do-dah.  I may get a new fuse holder but it looks like there would more dis-assembly in order to install it.  I put the side cover back on for now and will see what happens for a while.  From looking around the forum, it seems like a lot of OBCs fail.  This bike started showing these symptoms right at the 5 year mark and I intially thought it was the battery going down hill but it seems like there is more experience suggesting it is the OBC or this fuse holder.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: FXS 2019 doesnt charge
« on: December 04, 2023, 12:27:33 AM »
Thanks very much for all the help and pointing out things I should have found on my own.  I removed the side cover and the area around the wires and the fuse holder is clean and dry.  I removed the fuse and did a continuity test and it checks out OK.  The inside of the fuse holder looks fine - clean, no corrosion.  Put the fuse back in and no change.  I'm going find a replacement fuse and try that and then do some of the things mdjak1 did wrt cleaning it up.  Maybe I just need a new OBC.  I will update after trying a new fuse.

Again, thanks to all.  This forum is great.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: FXS 2019 doesnt charge
« on: December 03, 2023, 08:16:09 PM »
Got it - thank you very much.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: FXS 2019 doesnt charge
« on: December 02, 2023, 11:24:33 PM »
I see this is a topic that hasn't been posted in a while but I am having a similar problem with my 2017 FX and this came up when searching.  I don't know where this fuse is and wondered if someone could tell me?  Is it item number 28 in the parts catalog?  Remove the seat and plastic around the battery to access?  Thanks.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: FX Swing Arm Bearings
« on: February 17, 2021, 10:09:19 PM »
They are 6204-2RS - single row ball bearings.  I replaced with Xike bearings purchased on Amazon.  Remove the seals and clean thoroughly then pack with high quality grease.  Others have used really expensive bearings.  I'll see how these do; it is easy enough now to replace them.

The design is different from most other swing arm bearings I know of.  I don't know if it is good or not so but, I think zero should have used a larger bearing, a double row ball bearing, or needle bearing or some combination instead of what they did.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / FX Swing Arm Bearings
« on: February 17, 2021, 07:12:07 PM »
A friend machined the tools rayivers shared (https://www.electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=6692.0) and today I replaced the swing arm bearings on my 2017 FX.  I had used the bike for off-road only for a year and the bearings were notchy and didn't feel right.

It was pretty straightforward.  Remove the rear wheel, stub axles, bottom shock bolt, countershaft sprocket, and the swing arm.  The wheel puller pressed the old ones out nicely; I didn't even warm up the frame around the bearings.  I cleaned the socket and applied some anti-seize lube.  The tools were great for pressing the new bearings in so thanks to rayivers.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: FX Front Sprocket
« on: October 03, 2020, 01:26:02 AM »
The front sprocket in my chain kit was JT - looks just like the diagram except 12 teeth.   Maybe Zero has other suppliers.  I had about 100 hours of off road/dirt bike use when I changed the sprocket and the wear was easily noticeable but it was still serviceable.

I have never known of a sprocket to shatter.

Know it is off topic but, the swing arm bearings are toast now and need replacing.  As discussed elsewhere on the forum, they are a problem.  I'm hoping better quality bearings packed with good grease will help longevity.  Most bearing suppliers don't properly lube the bearings and it is unlikely Zero would have done so either.

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Electric Motorcycle News / Re: Zero announces partnership with Polaris
« on: September 29, 2020, 10:41:03 PM »
X2 regarding what HD did to Alta.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / FX Front Sprocket
« on: September 28, 2020, 07:18:48 PM »
I have the chain kit on my 2017 FX and wanted options on the front sprocket.  After contacting several sprocket suppliers, JT sprockets told me they supply front sprockets to Zero; didn't know if anyone else was also supplying them and they do not supply rear sprockets.  Look closely at the chain kit front sprocket and you'll see it has the JT logo and is marked 565.  Here's a link to their JTF565 sprockets:

http://www.jtsprockets.com/catalogue/part/JTF565SC/

And to their spec drawing:


Sunstar told me their 325xx matches the JTF 565.

I put a 14 tooth on mine for street use and now the gearing is very close to stock and the speedometer is only off by a little.  I'll just keep the chain on now and not switch back to belt and pulley for street use.

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Topic is a little old now but I agree with Eccelerate about there being inherent problems and the possibility his bike is a lemon.  The bike is on warranty and had major power train issues and it sounds like zero didn't really look into it or attempt to learn from the experience.  I've talked to zero customer service twice and although they were fairly courteous, they were also unhelpful and didn't show interest in understanding the situation.

I converted my 2017 FX to be more capable as a dirt bike.  It has been a partial success and I really enjoy riding it.  Maybe I don't ride it as hard as Eccelerate rides his, but I haven't had power train problems so far.

With the Yamaha electric dirt bike announcement and other big motorcycle brands seeing the possibilities for electric dirt bikes, there should be some good options pretty soon.

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