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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: On board computer failure
« on: January 26, 2019, 01:21:06 PM »
First off, my appreciation for the truly respectful comments and advice. My main problem is the manufacturer, second is the dealership. Good point above about renting a uhaul, blind spot on my side.   Zero dealerships are far and wide between, I think the next closest are Gettysburg and Baltimore, one full charge.

As far as riding a bike hard, that’s what they are designed for, I don’t agree that 8 miles of nuts is the problem. If it is, that’s a crap design. I ride in the rain, I ride in the cold. The bike should at least handle what I can. Besides, what’s up with the tires if this is a sensitive moped?

I only found one fuse box; under the seat. I’m not seeing any inline. I’m also old, like late gen X old, I have enough trouble figuring out this forum. I can handle combustion engines like a boss, I sucked at the electronics portion of physics in college. Not my bag, I need a map.

I need a map and a bike that won’t get me killed.

I was told by the dealership that the das light should change, I took them at their word. Insofar as the clock, if you bought something new, shouldn’t they shit work?  Just saying.

You are all a greater help than I get commercially. Ride fast and die hard.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: On board computer failure
« on: January 06, 2019, 03:16:46 PM »
You have some good points there, but to start, 8 mikes on the odometer at purchase, the next service dealership is 120 miles and I don’t have a power pack, and I paid $18,000 for the bike. This isn’t some low end bike, not demo, nor used. Do you know what kind of bike and service and respect from the manufacturer I could have gotten if I had gone combustion? 

My guess is that now the big companies are moving green, they will be out of business in a couple years and really don’t care about customer service and loyalty because they know that. If you bought a car and you had to take it to the dealership and ONLY the dealership 6 times in 6 months from purchase, what would be your assessment of the quality the vehicle? 

I don’t care about rain or temperature. Unless there is ice or snow, I ride. You’ll never see me under a bridge. Not a fair weather....

I expect a high cost ride to perform in a like manner. Look at how it’s designed!  Does it look like a scooter let alone cruiser?  I could have gone high end Euro if I wanted some where to waste money. Alas, I’m military and working for peanuts when I get paid. I can’t afford the time and dealership expense for a half-assed jawn.
I posted my problems to let people know before they buy. I did see any solid  negative feedback before I purchased.  I would like to save someone the problems I have had.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: On board computer failure
« on: January 05, 2019, 11:26:02 AM »
Response to recent posts:
In Philly.

The daytime running light and the fuse have blown, both of which cause the dash light and the night running tail light to quit functioning. Little dangerous. Also kick stand sensor has clicked on while driving. I don’t know what has caused that but when it does I have pulled over and after a couple times kicking the stand down and back up it knocks it off.

The dealer ordered a kill switch, I had expected it to be the kickstand sensor so that was a surprise. Still not there. The dealer said maybe next Wednesday 09JAN. Zero didn’t have any help to offer when I called them today. Also they still weren’t interested in replacing the computer.

The clock in the upper left corner goes to 0000 when I turn the bike on after shutdown after setting it. The Bike is supposed to go from blue to yellow back light when you’re low on juice. My does not. Also has inconsistent % on the battery for the same drive in the same conditions by about 20%. (Side note: when you hit 0% the bike slowly loses max speed and doesn’t just crap out if you haven’t gone that low and wondered what happens).

Haven’t come accoss an actual diagram in the unofficial but it is broad and I will rat through it and see what I can find. Thanks for the tip.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: On board computer failure
« on: January 04, 2019, 07:44:41 AM »
I contacted Zero direct since I bought the bike. They stated they will not give any schismatics nor will they offer or help direct me to ANY diagnostic tools.  I am working out the later on my own. So yes the dealership sucks as far as the time it takes to get us serviced but they ordered the part early morning 21DEC18. Still not here. I ordered my daughter a set of earrings from the Ukraine a day or two after. Showed up the end of Dec.

The onboard computer hasn’t diagnosed half the problem with the bike, including a blown fuse. I’ve been lucky to have found the problems looking on line with other people who have similar issues. Thus I would hardly call this a generalization. Zero refusing to address the problem on a NEW bike that I started having in July following a June purchase is the issue. I have solar panels on my house, hybrid cars, green water based nontoxic insulation so on so forth. Wish I had gone with a Harley.  There are two things you need; trust and know your skill and trust and know your ride, everyone and everything else is out to kill you. I don’t trust this ride.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / On board computer failure
« on: January 01, 2019, 10:27:32 AM »
I have a Zero DSR2017. New and have had it since about June. I’ve had it in the shop about a half dozen times to have “the dealership diagnose the problem” because they won’t allow you the tools to do that on your own. They can find nothing wrong on the bike. Yet the clock zeros out every time I shut it down and there is no low power change to the dash light. The bike has blown fusss, bulbs, and the thing that got me the most was the recent breakdown. It would not start, gave no red triangle ! indication pattern other than the kickstand was down, and it took towo weeks for them to tow and two weeks to get around to looking at it. Gets worse. The kill switch died for no reason. What if I was doing 70 in the middle lane on the highway in heavy traffic when that happened? What’s my life expectancy at that moment?  Zero refuses to stand behind their product, can you blame them?  Who wants to stand behind a poorly made product when you don’t care about the purchaser?  I like to gamble, I ride and know the risks but this is just callous negligence. I’ll add more later. Just an initial response to their “caveat emptor.”
~have an insane ride; daffy is knowing that the 4+ wheelers are out to kill you

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