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It makes a lot of sense the 80 mile range is an old number they published and never corrected, and the 112 mile range is what they're actually getting now. Simple question:

Has anyone gone 80 miles at 70mph on a charge? I haven't. I'd say it's closer to 65-70.

I would agree with that. I am 60-70 depending on temp and terrain.

And more movememt on this front?

If I had 6kw L2 I think the bike would be nearly perfect (could always use more range    )

So bringing this one up again.  I added the bike to my Progressive insurance which I thought made everything all good.  When my bill went up $2, I started to dig.  Looks like it is just liability insurance.  I contacted them to make it full coverage and they said they can't do it since it is classified as an "electric scooter".  He said they don't have enough info.

So, anyone else have full coverage on their Energica?

Picked up a 2018 80kw for a crazy low price. Absolutely love this thing. Also helps having a dealer in town (AF1 Racing in Austin).

I hadn't ridden a bike in 20 years so I didn't have the usual "this is so different than my ICE bike" reaction. Now gotta get my wife something like a Zero or maybe that new Lightning since this is too heavy for her.

Going to check out the CCS chargers this weekend. Extremely happy with the purchase. wanted to get the 107 but couldn't pass up the deal on this 80.

Quote from: Richard230 on January 19, 2019, 09:34:27 PM

My 2018 16.2 kWh Zero S takes about 15 kWh at the wall to fully recharge from "0". So that should tell you something about the actual capacity of Zero batteries, compared with the advertised capacity, depending upon what electrical efficiency you think their onboard chargers operate at.

Sounds about right. We normally cannot access the very top of the possible charge as well as the very bottom, which helps the battery life.

-Don-

so I think this above answers my original question - Yes, the battery already has built in battery longevity tactics (you can only use 85% of battery capacity when you charge it to 100%) so limiting the charge shouldn't have a dramatic effect on increasing battery longevity.

Thanks for the responses!

Quote from: NEW2elec on December 14, 2018, 01:42:56 PM

Tesla makes some good cars and they have made the EV cool and usable for most needs but it looks like most every car company is coming out with one or more EVs by 2020.
At that point the real race starts and we'll see who pulls ahead. 
Tesla may crush them all I don't know, but super fast charging <15 mins will be needed to kill gas.

Even as it is, I see time advantages to my Tesla because it never needs to stop at a gas station ever-and the only times I have ever charged on the road is when I had other things to do for the time being charged.

I normally only charge at home. How many people have a gas station at their house?  Even as it is, EVs can save time compared to ICE vehicles.

-Don-  Tucson, AZ

People don't have a gas station at thieir house but many don't have garages or power outlets where they park their vehicles either.  The current target market for EVs, inner city commuters, don't have those luxuries and would need to charge somewhere. 

This is why there is a race to put replaceable battery "stations" around cities so you can just swap batteries at a street corner or take them in your apartment and charge them.  I think that format will help adoption quicker than the current pace of plug stations.  It won't work, yet, for high powered juice machines but if more people adopt EV of some sort, more infrastructure will come and the more comfortable people will be with purchasing EVs.  Than it will b better for everyone.

OK Guys, guess what? The SR/F will be on a 200v platform allowing speed charging. Furthermore, the battery and motor will be boosted with a 100 hp and probably a 18.8 KW battery. The frame will be more solid and a bit lower with more substantial brakes and forks. Traction control will also be featured, along with an excellent  display.
Price point will hover around 22-25k
Performance will be stupid fast and top speed will be around 130

I have inferred this from Zero so lets see how close I come in February

I would hope they would extend the specs a bit further tbh. I would like to think moving to a completely new platform/architecture affords that kind of flexibility. We already have 18 kw so why not a bump to 20? Perhaps weight? Though assuming the new motor is more efficient, then perhaps 18kw is plenty and keeps the weight down?

Otherwise I think the rest not only should be included, it should be expected!  tft, TC, better suspension, CCS, etc.

This will be playing with Harley and Energica and they either exist or already announced these items a while back.

How about an 11kw on board L2?

C'mon Zero, let's push the envelope for $21-25k!

Wonder if the heated grips will be available from Energica to purchase from previous years?