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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Real life consumption
« on: November 07, 2018, 06:16:44 PM »
Quote from: dennis-NL on November 07, 2018, 03:05:34 AM
I'm at 9Wh/km on Zero app
5,5Wh/km is like allways go 50-80km/h, so not really realistic.

I am not familiar with how the bike computes consumption, as I said I don't know if it takes charging losses into account or the energy lost while the bike is unused, possibly is not material but I don't know. Do you know if the app computes something else? it seems that the app only retrieves data in real time (doesn't store data if not connected to the bike or at least it is not shown) so I only use it to update firmware or change configuration, that is why I thought that the average consumption in the on-board system was more reliable...

Average speed could be below 100km/h because the urban part of the trip and traffic but most of the time I ride over 100 km/h, do you think it is too low? maybe if we add losses we get closer to your figures.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Real life consumption
« on: November 07, 2018, 05:53:16 PM »
Quote from: dennis-NL on November 07, 2018, 12:05:48 AM
I use my full capacity 1 way commute (75km) going 100-128km/h (128 will not get my engine overheated ;-)  ).

I believe Zero and Diginow states stopping at 80% is perfect.
Long storage (>1 month) at 60%.
But..... does any1 really allready noted battery degredation?
Not me so far.

Thanks. My commute normally consumes 25% (50% a day) and usually charge it at the office. Therefore, if I charge up to 80% at the office I would start the day around 55% which drops to 30% when get to the office. From what you said, I understand that leaving capacity below 60% isn't good only if > 1 month so 1/2 days shouldn't be an issue?

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Real life consumption
« on: November 07, 2018, 05:37:21 PM »
Quote from: gt13013 on November 07, 2018, 12:11:17 AM
Quote from: freeRd on November 06, 2018, 11:42:53 PM
I ride a DS 2017, after 1 year I get a 5,5 Wh/km consumption on the screen in a combined use. However, most of my commute is at a speed over 100 km/h. It has handprotectors, high Zero screen and topcase (+90 kg :D).
5,5 Wh/km is not possible !

You're right it's 5,5 kWh/100km or 55 Wh/km.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Real life consumption
« on: November 06, 2018, 11:42:53 PM »
I ride a DS 2017, after 1 year I get a 5,5 Wh/km consumption on the screen in a combined use. However, most of my commute is at a speed over 100 km/h. It has handprotectors, high Zero screen and topcase (+90 kg :D).

In any case I don't know if the bike takes into account charging losses or the energy lost when not in use. I don't know if these losses are material either.

My major concern is related to what is best to extend the life of batteries since I have found different opinions related to different manufacturers and models. Shall we fully charge the bike every day or just charge only up to a certain percent, say 80% (assuming you don't need a full charge for commuting)? What do you normally do?

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