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Buy Sell Trade / 2018 Zero 14.4 DSR with storage tank
« on: December 10, 2019, 03:40:35 AM »
$11,000 in Covington Washington

Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/yoP52ye2MftuKUpTA


This one comes with the external quick charger, but retains the super convenient storage space where the gas tank, charge tank, or power tank would normally be.

I love the experience of riding this bike, but I'm pushing myself somewhat reluctantly out of the sport these days for personal and family reasons. I rode this bike to work every sunny day last year and that 45min, 25mi ride dependably took 21% of the capacity of the battery regardless of whether I took the freeway or the backroads. I would typically leave it plugged in while at work and leave for home with a 100% charge every day, then I would ride it home and back to work without plugging it in at home. This would drain the bike to around 60% per cycle which seems to be the recommended pattern from people that know a lot more about batteries than I do… and it was free.

I've owned a lot of motorcycles in my life (1975 CL360, 1975 CB360, 1975 CB750, 1986 FZ600, 1994 VFR750, 2000 R6, 2006 Monster, 2000 748, and the Zero), and this thing is a revelation. Most of my bikes have been vintage of one class or another and if you are into constantly tinkering and tuning your motorcycle than electric motorcycles may not be for you… because they just work. No valves to adjust, No chain to adjust, No chain to lube, No cam chain tensioner, No oil to change, No rear wheel bushings to replace, No carbs to adjust, No air filter to replace. No fuel to be aware of. The only fluid in the thing is brake fluid. If you have a whole garage filled with stuff to keep engines running like I do, you can get rid of most of it.

The plug to charge it is a standard three prong monitor cable (or at least it looks like one) and it plugs into any standard wall outlet, and stows neatly in a hole in the swing arm. I do have a quick charger that goes with the sale, but it's designed to stay in one spot (like at work or at home, rather than travel with the bike) and I've never seen a reasonable use for it since I tend to stay at home or work for more than a couple of hours at a stretch.

The Pit Bull stand in the photos is not intended to go with the sale.

Details for the 2018 ZERO DSR:
List price: $16,495
Range - 110 miles per charge (I found this to be accurate taking 21% for a 25 mi ride to work every morning)
Motor: Permanent magnet brushless
Torque: 116ftlb
HP: 70
Top speed: 110 (I don't think I ever maxxed it out, but 110 seems reasonable)
Max capacity: 14.4 kWh (This is what normally increases year over year but 2018-2019 is unchanged)
Charge time: 0%-100% = 9.8 hours (I never tested, but seems reasonable)
Transmission: Direct drive (no shifting, no clutch)
Curb weight: 419lbs

The bike is fairly pristine aside from some good scrapes on the underside of the right side peg and tip of the brake pedal (pictured) due to a low speed down on the right side. In this incident none of the plastics, paint, or frame touched, just the mirror, bar end and underside of this peg. The damage to the peg is the only remaining damage from this incident.

Modifications that I have done to the bike are limited to the swapping out of handle grips to get rid of the too squishy stock ones. And the removal of the "ZERO" sticker from the tank.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with this bike and if you enjoy the experience of an electric motorcycle I can't imagine you not loving this thing. Adult owned, 2447ish miles on it (I'm going to keep riding it until someone buys it off me), garage kept, garage parked (at work), never ridden in rain, stable mates with several other bikes.

Test rides for motorcycles can be tricky things and I will not be offering one without full cash in hand. If you would like to test ride one of these or just see if an electric motorcycle is something you're interested in, I recommend stopping in at either Triumph of Seattle on 99 North of Seattle, Noble Rush Café in Redmond, or Noble Rush in Auburn. I've spent time at the first two and the people could not be more friendly and helpful. Triumph of Seattle is where I discovered how much I loved electric motorcycles and Noble rush in Redmond is where I bought mine. If they have a 2018 ride that, but the specs for the 2019 are exactly the same so the experience should be the same.

I like this bike and am in no hurry to be rid of it, but for now I'm chasing a different type of open air motoring that's a little more social and a little safer. I know that there will be more electric motorcycles in my future, but now's not the time for me. Is it the time for you? Feel free to text me at 214-435-9955 if you're interested.

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Buy Sell Trade / 2018 Zero 14.4 DSR with storage tank
« on: September 07, 2019, 05:22:33 AM »
$11,000 in Covington Washington

Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/yoP52ye2MftuKUpTA


Are you tired of paying for fuel? Love to ride, but tired of stopping at the gas station? I've got an opportunity for you. The Zero DSR offers immediate acceleration and torque at any speed. This is the top of the line bike of the 2018 Zero lineup.

This one comes with the external quick charger, but retains the super convenient storage space where the gas tank, charge tank, or power tank would normally be.

I love the experience of riding this bike, but I'm pushing myself somewhat reluctantly out of the sport these days for personal and family reasons. I rode this bike to work every sunny day last year and that 45min, 25mi ride dependably took 21% of the capacity of the battery regardless of whether I took the freeway or the backroads. I would typically leave it plugged in while at work and leave for home with a 100% charge every day, then I would ride it home and back to work without plugging it in at home. This would drain the bike to around 60% per cycle which seems to be the recommended pattern from people that know a lot more about batteries than I do… and it was free.

I've owned a lot of motorcycles in my life (1975 CL360, 1975 CB360, 1975 CB750, 1986 FZ600, 1994 VFR750, 2000 R6, 2006 Monster, 2000 748, and the Zero), and this thing is a revelation. Most of my bikes have been vintage of one class or another and if you are into constantly tinkering and tuning your motorcycle than electric motorcycles may not be for you… because they just work. No valves to adjust, No chain to adjust, No chain to lube, No cam chain tensioner, No oil to change, No rear wheel bushings to replace, No carbs to adjust, No air filter to replace. No fuel to be aware of. The only fluid in the thing is brake fluid. If you have a whole garage filled with stuff to keep engines running like I do, you can get rid of most of it.

The plug to charge it is a standard three prong monitor cable (or at least it looks like one) and it plugs into any standard wall outlet, and stows neatly in a hole in the swing arm. I do have a quick charger that goes with the sale, but it's designed to stay in one spot (like at work or at home, rather than travel with the bike) and I've never seen a reasonable use for it since I tend to stay at home or work for more than a couple of hours at a stretch.

The Pit Bull stand in the photos is not intended to go with the sale.

Details for the 2018 ZERO DSR:
List price: $16,495
Range - 110 miles per charge (I found this to be accurate taking 21% for a 25 mi ride to work every morning)
Motor: Permanent magnet brushless
Torque: 116ftlb
HP: 70
Top speed: 110 (I don't think I ever maxxed it out, but 110 seems reasonable)
Max capacity: 14.4 kWh (This is what normally increases year over year but 2018-2019 is unchanged)
Charge time: 0%-100% = 9.8 hours (I never tested, but seems reasonable)
Transmission: Direct drive (no shifting, no clutch)
Curb weight: 419lbs

The bike is fairly pristine aside from some good scrapes on the underside of the right side peg and tip of the brake pedal (pictured) due to a low speed down on the right side. In this incident none of the plastics, paint, or frame touched, just the mirror, bar end and underside of this peg. The damage to the peg is the only remaining damage from this incident.

Modifications that I have done to the bike are limited to the swapping out of handle grips to get rid of the too squishy stock ones. And the removal of the "ZERO" sticker from the tank.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with this bike and if you enjoy the experience of an electric motorcycle I can't imagine you not loving this thing. Adult owned, 2447ish miles on it (I'm going to keep riding it until someone buys it off me), garage kept, garage parked (at work), never ridden in rain, stable mates with several other bikes.

Test rides for motorcycles can be tricky things and I will not be offering one without full cash in hand. If you would like to test ride one of these or just see if an electric motorcycle is something you're interested in, I recommend stopping in at either Triumph of Seattle on 99 North of Seattle, Noble Rush Café in Redmond, or Noble Rush in Auburn. I've spent time at the first two and the people could not be more friendly and helpful. Triumph of Seattle is where I discovered how much I loved electric motorcycles and Noble rush in Redmond is where I bought mine. If they have a 2018 ride that, but the specs for the 2019 are exactly the same so the experience should be the same.

I like this bike and am in no hurry to be rid of it, but for now I'm chasing a different type of open air motoring that's a little more social and a little safer. I know that there will be more electric motorcycles in my future, but now's not the time for me. Is it the time for you? Feel free to text me at 214-435-9955 if you're interested.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Insurance recommendations
« on: July 14, 2018, 03:37:41 AM »
Update:

Progressive will insure it. They have a book that they look into that lists "unacceptable vehicles" or something like that. And guess what's listed in there "electric bikes". This listing causes a lot of confusion. This does not mean electric motorcycles, it means electric bicycles, but this is not widely understood.

I got a quote from my broker for $259.87/yr to add the Zero to the other 3 bikes I have insured with them. By the way I got a quote directly from Progressive (since I was already on the phone with them) and it was more than $1,000/yr for the same coverage.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Insurance recommendations
« on: June 30, 2018, 06:03:02 AM »
I feel like this should have been covered so please direct me if I've missed it. I did a search and found some info that was 9 years old, but that was about it.

I have my home and cars insured with Travelers, but they don't insure bikes, so I have 4 of my bikes (those that are basically ride-able) insured with Progressive. I talked to my broker and now it seems that Progressive will not insure electric motorcycles ("limited market with high risk"). They did find some small company that I had never heard of (American Modern) that wanted to charge me $490/yr which I feel is a lot for one bike, it's a hell of a lot more than I pay for my Ducati 748.

I'm in Washington state in the US, I have a good driving record, I just bought a 2018 DSR. What do you recommend for insurance? I hope to put home, auto, and bikes all under the same if possible.

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General Discussion / Re: Considering an ebike for Northern Virginia
« on: June 30, 2018, 05:35:04 AM »
I bought a new DSR three weeks ago and so far love it. I ride 25 miles into work every morning (40km) and use about 21% of the battery to do so.

When I bought it from Noble Rush in Redmond WA my friend and I took out one of the Alta's (the supermoto one) and the DSR. We rode both on a 14 mile round trip test ride with a stop for lunch in the middle.

The Summary is that the Alta felt like a garage built electric vehicle built by a motorcycle enthusiast and the DSR felt like a factory built motorcycle built by an EV company.

The list of components and the initial sit on feel of the Alta is more impressive if you already know motorcycles, but they don't really work all that well together. The Zero feels like a much more mature and well engineered machine and the components (although not impressive on paper) work really well together.

I know that the more fair comparison would have been between the FXS and the Alta (but I was interested in the DSR and my friend was interested in the Alta) If you fall in love with the Alta, by all means get one, but I would not make your decision before trying out one of the Zeros.

I still haven't figured out insurance and was told that Progressive does not insure electric motorcycles.

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