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Buy Sell Trade / Re: FS: 2017 SR ZF13.0
« on: December 05, 2017, 09:01:11 AM »
What is the difference between the S-13 and the SR-13? Care to say why you are selling it? Any issues with it?
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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Budget for chargers?
« on: November 23, 2017, 04:20:23 AM »
I'm coming to the conclusion that an FX on the back of a truck camper will have to give way to a good ol' internal combustion motorcycle. Tried and true.
And maybe just get that Zero DSR with charge tank and ride the heck out of it from my base at home. Not a bad choice.
Still thinkin'....
And maybe just get that Zero DSR with charge tank and ride the heck out of it from my base at home. Not a bad choice.
Still thinkin'....
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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Budget for chargers?
« on: November 23, 2017, 12:00:56 AM »The rule of thumb is that bright, direct sunlight delivers about 1000 watts per square meter, so a 3M square panel would receive about 9000 watts worth of sunlight. Given a conversion efficiency of 15%, that means they'd put out about 1350 watts electrical power in peak sunshine. There must be some sort of storage, or more likely, the system is grid-tied. They may be saying it's "completely solar powered" because they expect the usage duty cycle to be fairly low, and the average power the solar panel puts into the grid should about equal the power used by charging vehicles.
Most RV systems seem to be rated in terms of watts of output at maximum levels (full sun, aimed optimally, etc). A smallish RV/camper with, say, 600 watts of solar generation with a dual "golf cart" battery system with something like 100 amp hours would be considered a fairly beefy system for LEDs, fans, laptops, charging smart phones. Add a 3000 watt pure sine wave inverter to plug in the standard Zero charger. Any of you have an idea of whether that would handle charging a Zero in, say, 12 hours, 16 hrs?? I'm really curious about this possibility, not for fast charging, but just to be able to get the motorcycle up to full very couple of days while in a remote setting, using a solar system sized in about this range.
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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Budget for chargers?
« on: November 16, 2017, 09:14:34 AM »
All of this is extremely helpful, enlightening. I've researched the setups many RV'ers and van dwellers have discussed on various websites so, while I still am bewildered by the topic of electrical energy, I have come to conclude that most RVs or truck campers, etc. only get so far with solar, charging batteries for using 12v appliances, fans, refrigerators, etc. Charging a Zero might be more comparable to trying to run an RV air conditioner. Which is often discouraged even for the most robust solar system.
My use of the FXS would be mostly confined to exploring whatever location I happen to be in, be that getting into a town for a museum, a meal, or zipping around a national park whilst the camper is setup and the top popped at a camp site. It might be that I'd find a charging station at some national parks (?) and certainly if I went to RV sites (though that's not the kind of camping I prefer). But, as an example, I spent 2 days at a KOA outside of Cody, WY. I spent a day at the magnificent Buffalo Bill Center of the West (NOT to be missed! World class art museum, Cody Firearms museum, Plains Indians, Photography, all world class!) And another day exploring the South Fork (Shoshone River--beautiful!). I could have left the camper at the KOA and done these with an FXS, not to mention going in for dinner at the world famous Irma Hotel (named after Buffalo Bill's daugter). Such trips would likely not max out the range.... but it would be nice to be able to at least charge it overnight. No problem at a KOA or other RV site with 15A-50Amp service. It's those more remote places where the FXS would not be usable if it could not be charged. Oh well, I'm used to compromise.
My use of the FXS would be mostly confined to exploring whatever location I happen to be in, be that getting into a town for a museum, a meal, or zipping around a national park whilst the camper is setup and the top popped at a camp site. It might be that I'd find a charging station at some national parks (?) and certainly if I went to RV sites (though that's not the kind of camping I prefer). But, as an example, I spent 2 days at a KOA outside of Cody, WY. I spent a day at the magnificent Buffalo Bill Center of the West (NOT to be missed! World class art museum, Cody Firearms museum, Plains Indians, Photography, all world class!) And another day exploring the South Fork (Shoshone River--beautiful!). I could have left the camper at the KOA and done these with an FXS, not to mention going in for dinner at the world famous Irma Hotel (named after Buffalo Bill's daugter). Such trips would likely not max out the range.... but it would be nice to be able to at least charge it overnight. No problem at a KOA or other RV site with 15A-50Amp service. It's those more remote places where the FXS would not be usable if it could not be charged. Oh well, I'm used to compromise.
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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Budget for chargers?
« on: November 15, 2017, 02:59:42 AM »
Thanks for the replies. Of course, the hard part for a long time motorcycle rider is determining what I want. I have, and will keep, my 2 current motorcycles, an '02 BMW R1150GS which is my long distance machine. And I have a '16 Honda CRF250L which is a light weight (~325lbs) enduro style which I ride around town and into the Colorado hills on a more regular basis.
I love most of what I have read and watched (YouTube) about the Zero. One thing that interests me is the FX or FXS as a bike that is light enough to haul on my Ford F150 with a Four Wheel Camper pop up camper on it. The camper is under 850lbs, so I have some capacity and I'd like to have a motorcycle that could be used when I'm using the camper. Probably mount a hitch carrier on the back. Since it is a truck camper, once I've settled in at a site, I'm usually kind of stuck there unless I want to drop the top again (which is not really very difficult or time consuming) and pack up gear for, say, going into town to sight see, museums, art galleries (erstwhile artist) or breakfast/lunch/dinner. With a small moto such as an FX or FXS, I could zip around and see the sights, go into town for food, sightseeing, etc.
What would really be nice as well, is if the bike could be charged when at camp via solar panels. I will be installing solar on the camper this fall/winter, to run a vent fan, LEDs and possibly, a 12v refrigerator (Engel or Dometic). If a solar setup could be sized to charge a Zero, that would be fantastic. I currently use a GoalZero Yeti 400 portable power pack, which utilizes a 396 Wh AGM battery and I charge it with two GZ Boulder 30s, for a total of 60 watts (max) of charging. I'm pretty sure this is WAY to small for charging the Zero, but I plan to install an on board system with greater capability.
A local dealer has a 2016 FXS 6.5 for a decent price, which is always appealing. I'm sure the 2018 7.2 would have greater range but at considerable cost. The 2016 FXS 6.5 might be the happy choice. Any thoughts on this idea appreciated!
I love most of what I have read and watched (YouTube) about the Zero. One thing that interests me is the FX or FXS as a bike that is light enough to haul on my Ford F150 with a Four Wheel Camper pop up camper on it. The camper is under 850lbs, so I have some capacity and I'd like to have a motorcycle that could be used when I'm using the camper. Probably mount a hitch carrier on the back. Since it is a truck camper, once I've settled in at a site, I'm usually kind of stuck there unless I want to drop the top again (which is not really very difficult or time consuming) and pack up gear for, say, going into town to sight see, museums, art galleries (erstwhile artist) or breakfast/lunch/dinner. With a small moto such as an FX or FXS, I could zip around and see the sights, go into town for food, sightseeing, etc.
What would really be nice as well, is if the bike could be charged when at camp via solar panels. I will be installing solar on the camper this fall/winter, to run a vent fan, LEDs and possibly, a 12v refrigerator (Engel or Dometic). If a solar setup could be sized to charge a Zero, that would be fantastic. I currently use a GoalZero Yeti 400 portable power pack, which utilizes a 396 Wh AGM battery and I charge it with two GZ Boulder 30s, for a total of 60 watts (max) of charging. I'm pretty sure this is WAY to small for charging the Zero, but I plan to install an on board system with greater capability.
A local dealer has a 2016 FXS 6.5 for a decent price, which is always appealing. I'm sure the 2018 7.2 would have greater range but at considerable cost. The 2016 FXS 6.5 might be the happy choice. Any thoughts on this idea appreciated!
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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Budget for chargers?
« on: November 08, 2017, 03:55:13 AM »
I'm considering a dive into this e-world, maybe a 2017 DS 13. Of course I want a bike capable of getting a quicker charge at public level 2 stations as well as at home. Realistically what would you experienced owners consider as a reasonable budget for a charging accessory, j plugs, the factory options or aftermarket chargers?
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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Ergonomic differences 2017 DS and S?
« on: November 08, 2017, 12:33:53 AM »
The local dealer has some good prices on 2017 models, the DS 13.0 and the S ZF13.0. I'm anxious to test drive them but I have family visiting and, even more limiting, we just had about 4" of snow and the roads are icy. I think I understand the differences in these models, like tires, suspension, but I'm wondering about rider ergos. Are the both the same in that way? Upright riding position, etc? Any info appreciated!
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