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Wavelet...
THIS IS PATENTLY FALSE
" Zero is constantly struggling with handling overseas importers -- I think they went through two in Australia (and there isn't a current one), they had one here in Israel who quarreled with them, they canceled the agency agreement  and for over a year there was no support for ~200 local owners (they recently settled on a new one). "


NOT at all true. IMPORTERS, DEALERS are constantly struggling to get ZERO to fix outright defective bikes.  AUTO ELECTRIC did not quarrel with ZERO.  Auto Electric politely asked ZERO to abide by the law and their warranty obligations.  ZERO telling a customer to bury a year old FX that BURST INTO FLAMES while being ridden is one of hundreds of examples.

Photos available.  There's also a ZERO that caught fire on Highway 1, batteries that alighted in a shed, 20+ motor failures and over 120 battery replacements... these are the results of DEFECTS, not "support" issues.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: 2013 BMS dead
« on: September 03, 2020, 10:44:04 PM »
Erf, Zero keeps the programming of the BMS close to the vest.
That's gonna be tough.  The tools to fix it just don't really exist in the field.
Hi Chimirges,  2013 and later BMS ... are not simple.  We have 1 in stock. May be able to ID a used 1 too, pulled from a 2013 battery.   If we can find a JTAG we can double-check the programming and ship to Belarus.  There is a possible recovery but not something I'm going to share here.  You can PM me.

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Not able to support the markets they're in. Customer repair times are often measured in months, sometime years. Customer was in our shop today asking for our help with a Zero SR they bought in April or May 2019 that was out-of-commission since late May 2019. Got to back and while on the way to annual test the bike shut down again and wont restart.  From what I understand its either bad software or controller... again.  We gave him the number of the lawyer handling the class action, but I think he's going to suit in the UK.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: BMS issues?
« on: August 28, 2020, 10:10:15 PM »
It may be an issue with your chargetank.  You may try bypassing (ideally unplugging is you've the ability to do so) and use only the onboard. Post your logs.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: How bad is my battery?
« on: August 28, 2020, 10:05:28 PM »
So I was able to start the dobal function, using the teraterm software (see attached text file).  Is dobal actually able to balance cells?  I told it to stop after a short while, since I wasn't sure about its capabilities.
What firmware version is on the pack/monolith?
Who provided LEVEL 3 password?

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: No lights on BMS
« on: August 28, 2020, 10:01:57 PM »
Fuse will NOT prevent BMS board from "lighting". BMS LEDs are BMS specific. Best suggestion is to remove and reset BMS having you "trained/skilled" technician clean all points of connection. We've seen batteries "die" only to become fully operational weeks/months later, this is especially true on 2014/15 model year FX modules.

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That's the point of AutoE's posts, to scare you.

Eccelerate seems to just kill bikes so I'm not sure how to judge that.  If their experience was more common we'd probably have alot more threads like this.

-Crissa
If you wish to be scared do your own research. Perhaps Crissa might explain why is it with less than 1000 annual sales in the lower 48, there are routinely over 25 Zero's to be found in salvage auctions?
Israelis rarely post as they lack English skills and many fear diminishing the value of their vehicles. 
FuN FaCTs the battery replacement rate in Israel is over 80%. The S/DS charger replacement rate in Israel is over 60%.

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Zero's defect rate is sky high. In Israel over 80% of Zero's required new batteries, over 15% new motors, ...

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We had batteries with bad cell(s), cell tap issues, etc from under 1000miles.

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How many miles/km on it?  Post you logs here or PM me. 50/50 your battery is failing if SOC is "rebounding". If you can take a more "spirited" ride, do so. We've seen battery drop from 90% to single digits in 10-15miles, then bounce back to over 50%. All needed replacement.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Broke the belt for for 4th time
« on: August 16, 2020, 09:50:21 PM »
need to watch the alignment and tension. release the throttle on any "jumps". is it a clean cut or a more jagged tear?

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: How bad is my battery?
« on: August 14, 2020, 12:43:38 AM »
Recording a phone call is a high crime? How would you categorize consumer fraud? Not accusing anyone or anything... just asking as I find this very interesting. With regards to Zero, tell them that you're recording if concerned. Didnt Kim and Kayne record a call a few years back? Sure ZERO has recorded calls for "customer service puposes" and if they refuse to "allow" you to record, you can and likely should assume the worse. Polanski, seriously, whatever he may or may not have done, is nothing compared to the damage an irresponsible, ethically challenged automotive manufacturer can inflict. Not accusing anyone of anything...

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Customers used to buy direct for $200+/- until Zero shut it down. I guess lossing this revenue stream was unacceptable to Zero management.
When was that? I would like to hear more about all that.

-Don-  Reno, NV
There was a whole investigation into this HUGE MARKUP by the Israel Competition Authority after a customer uncovered this.  I'll get some emails pulled next week. At some point we also found invoicing with a shipment of chargers we received from ZERO from the supplier; $200+/-.  Based on conversations with Aaron Cheatham, ZERO was/is paying much less. You can use a TCCon charger, Delta Q, DigiNow.  Follow whats "going on" with the SRS/SRF.  Knowing a little more I'd recommend not investing in a NEW ZERO... wait and see.

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I have had good luck with AF1 Racing in Texas. I have bought two sock chargers from them and only paid the list price of $800, no shipping charges or state sales tax. The new charger that I just purchased has an entirely new product number so maybe it will be more reliable.  One can only hope that GWP has managed to come up with a new design that will have a lower failure rate.  Photo of the new charger model is attached.
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More reliable? The only thing about the GWP charger that's reliable is the failure rate. Customers used to buy direct for $200+/- until Zero shut it down. I guess lossing this revenue stream was unacceptable to Zero management.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: How bad is my battery?
« on: August 11, 2020, 10:22:39 PM »
If you do something illegal in one state, you're going to be giving up your right to enter or do business in that state - even if that state can't reach you outside.  Doesn't change the legality of the action.
-Crissa
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Hi Crissa, So you work for Zero Motorcycles and you're a licensed attorney? Please share with us which state you barred in.

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