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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Price of plastics? (2017 DS)
« on: June 25, 2017, 03:03:04 AM »
I paid $455 for the front fender, storage tank and upper part of the tail for an SR.  I assume the prices wouldn't vary much for a DS.

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I replaced the tank, front fender and the upper half of the tail.  The lower half of the tail is a ton more work to replace and it is barely visible and hardly faded anyway.

You'll want to replace all 3, since the color is definitely different if the original plastics have faded at all.

I cut off the old lock with a dremel, since getting to the bolts from below seemed very difficult.

I think the tank was $355, the other two pieces cost another $85-90 or so total.

Edit: 2015 SR and I just use different keys for ignition and the tank.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Plastic fade
« on: May 20, 2017, 06:30:27 PM »
The dealer only ordered the upper tail piece by mistake.  It's probably for the best though, since the installation is less than 5 minutes and without fading on the lower you can't even tell the difference.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Plastic fade
« on: May 19, 2017, 07:25:36 PM »
I upgrades to the 2017 plastics on my 2015 SR.  Not cheap at ~$450, with the storage tank making up the bulk of that cost.  Looks great though and I'm still waiting for the fender since the red one I received was a particularly yellow shade of red.

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Just to clarify, I had the fee refunded in North Carolina, not Georgia.  The Georgia law reads like it includes motorcycles, since it defines it as any vehicle that is fueled solely by alternative fuel.

Based on the wording for the Colorado statute, they say any vehicle that meets the requirements for the federal tax credit in section 30D or successor section, which does define a PEV as a 4 wheeled vehicle, but subsection g goes on to define credit for 2 and 3 wheeled vehicles.  I didn't find anything in the CO statute that defined a PEV directly, only referral to the federal definition.

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Since the other thread regarding GA fees was locked, I couldn't post there, but this seems like it could be useful information for others.  Based on the wording in GA 2015-2016 House Bill 170 it doesn't sound like there's a way around the fee for a motorcycle.

When I registered my bike (2015 SR) in North Carolina, however, my registration included a $130 fee as a PEV (Plug-in Electric Vehicle).  I did a little research on the exact wording of the laws and contested the charge with the DMW.

The DMV responded promptly and the charge was refunded. 

For anyone interested, here's the exact wording of my complaint to the DMV.

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I am the owner of a 2015 Zero SR electric motorcycle. I noticed when it was registered that it was assessed a fee of $130 for being a Plug-in Electric Vehicle.

According to NC Statue 20-87:

(13) Additional fee for certain electric vehicles. - At the time of an initial registration or registration renewal, the owner of a plug-in electric vehicle that is not a low-speed vehicle and that does not rely on a nonelectric source of power shall pay a fee in the amount of one hundred thirty dollars ($130.00) in addition to any other required registration fees.

But the definition for a Plug-in Electric Vehicle defined in statute 20-4.01:

(28a) Plug-in electric vehicle. - A four-wheeled motor vehicle that meets each of the following requirements:
a. Is made by a manufacturer primarily for use on public streets, roads, and highways and meets National Highway Traffic Safety Administration standards included in 49 C.F.R. § 571.
b. Has not been modified from original manufacturer specifications with regard to power train or any manner of powering the vehicle.
c. Is rated at not more than 8,500 pounds unloaded gross vehicle weight.
d. Has a maximum speed capability of at least 65 miles per hour.
e. Draws electricity from a battery that has all of the following characteristics:
1. A capacity of not less than four kilowatt hours.
2. Capable of being recharged from an external source of electricity.

Based on the definition, the $130 fee should not apply to an electric motorcycle, since the definition specifically calls out that it applies to four-wheeled motor vehicles only.

Please let me know how I go about getting this fee removed from my vehicle registration and refunded.
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It'd probably be worthwhile if anyone else has had success overturning one of these fees to share similar info.

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My dealer did not charge me to install the charge tank.  It appears the install cost is included in the price of the unit.  And yes it appears difficult to install and involves connecting with Zero's computer to make sure it is operating properly.  Cheers!

That's great info, thank you.  I was expecting some 6-8 hour install from the BMW/Zero dealer.

I'll check and see if install is included in the price.

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Does anyone know if the Charge Tank installation for a 2015 SR is really a dealer only install or are there instructions available for me to install it myself?  I'd prefer not to pay dealer labor rates if it's a relatively straight forward install.

Thanks.

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