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I just rode the thing until the bearing went out, and was able to still ride it about a half mile at 25mph - lot of grinding.

Looking about $1800 for motor if I remember, plus whatever labor, and who knows how long in the shop.

Lot of users recommended for me to take it to a professional but I didn’t have those resources.


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250k now  :) I’m marcus.held if interested but no, I see what you’re saying but why is my only opinion to go to social media? Peoples issues get fixed all the time that way because sometimes it’s easier to avoid bad press.

Mind you I still to this day name drop and talk highly of the brand, but I really can’t stand this way of diagnosing problems and serving me nothing as a happy customer when the thing worked.

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My bike has been in the shop for going on 8 months now, worse of all it has been sitting at a low state of charge while zero doesn't have any techs available? At this point I've been so patient dare I feel I am owed a new bike outright? Probably not, but I have a feeling once this issue is fixed, the battery will die next.

The issue started when the bike stopped charging, it's a 2016 DSR. Took it to the shop and Zero outright claimed we should replace the charger - which I paid to do.

Then came the controller .. a new harness .. another controller .. ignition switch .. ongoing issues as time drags along while my battery sits at a low state of charge.

My greatest frustration is that Zero will diagnose these problems through a process of elimination, whereby I have to buy ALL the parts in each step:

I bought a charger because they told me to, the issue persisted but I was told the charger NEEDED replacing anyways. I bought a new controller - they told me to, the issue remained exactly the same, and I was still informed that I NEEDED to have replaced the controller anyways. How they determined all these parts were toasted is beyond me, well it's an outright lie if I'm reading into the situation.

After months of not hearing anything back, I get a call from the mech saying that Zero claims it was basically my fault that I didn't want to buy a new switch - so I had to BUY ANOTHER, BRAND NEW, 2ND CONTROLLER to install AFTER a new ignition switch. Fine. It was my fault. I was given no other details and I have no other option to get the bike working than to continue hashing out $ while they diagnose by making me pay for basically a new bike head to toe.

I am fully convinced that I am buying parts for no reason because they refuse to, or lack the resource, to properly diagnose the problem. My original thread is at https://www.electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=11374.msg107084#msg107084

Absolute nightmare money pit. I did tell the mech to discuss my concerns about the low battery charge state as this drags on with Zero, somehow I feel I'm SOL. Without proper resource behind fixing problems I really fell like the company is on a path to an eventual downfall.

To think I used to be the one here saying "there are a lot of good experiences that go untold with Zero's, you just hear about the bad ones more" hah

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Did my charger just die?
« on: February 10, 2022, 11:43:41 AM »
It sounds like they told you to pay for parts to install that did not solve the problem. That's how I read it anyway. If that was the case, I would be VERY upset.

This is exactly what's happening, I'm at about $2,900 so far with no end in sight.

I have 208k followers on tiktok and they might hear the brutal truth, I wish this were easier.

Also I got an email from Zero stating they didn't know why my dealership needed to order a harness, I'm not so bent up about that because there is definitely a problem that hasn't been identified yet, but jesus

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Did my charger just die?
« on: January 25, 2022, 10:41:14 AM »
Small update, Zero has no good will left in em  >:( And maybe I shouldn't expect it, I'm just bummed. After 30k miles the things just show their issues.

Last year I replaced the motor due to its bearing failing, through no fault of my own - paid out of pocket as many others here have.

Currently in a 5+ month process of diagnosing an issue with charging,

1: They make me pay for a charger, $800 and issue isn't fixed
2: Buy a new $400 controller, installed and issue isn't fixed
3: Next up is a $600 harness, which I'm now waiting on..

It got so bad the mechanic basically asked me if I wanted the bike back as is... like they themselves are getting tired of it and I'm the burden for wanting my bike fixed.

The bike ran for 20k+ miles and charged just fine with a custom ignition switch - which I know some of you have done to your bikes too - but they wanna switch that out. So in this enormous process of elimination, parts and labor for the bike since 2016 and 40k miles is now around $4,950 in repairs beyond MSRP, and may be more.

I miss the days seeing customers getting good faith treatment from Zero, which in my opinion was a necessary backing for how small they are.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Did my charger just die?
« on: November 11, 2021, 03:40:27 AM »
I don't have the powertank, just the single 13kWh battery

Just got a call back from the dealership, they said the issue is still happening even though they replaced the charger... They claimed Zero said the charger was dead and recommended switching it out, so I argued if the issue is still happening I don't understand why I just bought an entirely new charger..

I'm really pissed, the work isn't getting done - I just have to wait even longer to see if they can narrow issues down

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Did my charger just die?
« on: September 08, 2021, 12:57:11 PM »
Thanks for the reply, I do believe the current 34% is accurate, the bike will turn on and work just fine, but won't charge.

I've got a video of it all here
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http://meow.ciphercat.org/v/obc_fail.mp4

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Did my charger just die?
« on: September 08, 2021, 11:49:35 AM »
Hey y'all, just got back from a ride on my 2016 DSR, my state of charge is at 34%.

When I plug in the charger (stock) the contactor clicks twice before the instrument cluster flashes a bunch at me. There is no error code associated with the problem, but my bike isn't charging.

Is this a known issue for failing stock chargers?

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: First potential problem on my DSR
« on: November 05, 2020, 07:55:26 AM »
Have you read this?
That is helpful thank you, long term usage while the bike shows these errors seems like a bad idea but I gotta use my bike, I uploaded logs here but I'm lost with them.

Did you happen to wash the bike recently, with a hose? That's what caused my isolation faults (think it was chassis and not BMS though), all went back to normal within a few days.

It sprinkled 2 days ago! but it was a very light sprinkle.

Dealership is a bit far (the one I bought the bike from closed shop =(    but if there are ANY suggestions at all for what to check I'll take them, please! I know there is a ground wire near ignition switch / under body plastics / even one on the swingarm. It seems to be the case that if I give it throttle, it works, but the errors keep showing as I ride it.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / First potential problem on my DSR
« on: November 05, 2020, 04:44:12 AM »
Well at 37k miles my 2016 DSR finally shows a potential issue. The dash is showing error codes 20, 28, 29:

20 - BMS Low Isolation
28 - BMS Isolation Fault
29 - BMS Isolation Danger

When I start up the bike the Danger symbol flashes rapidly, but when I put the kickstand up and turn the killswitch off and twist throttle a bit the errors go away, but they are coming back each time I start the bike up.

I skimmed some other threads but I don't know how it all relates, or what my problem is exactly.

Are these huge problems in the future? Worst case scenario does my bike just die?

Any help is appreciated

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: One month shy of two years old.
« on: October 10, 2020, 01:13:40 PM »
The plan is to continue commuting with it for the next four years so I’m halfway to my anticipated 100k miles on it (as a commuter).
saammeeeee!

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Problem solved. New battery installed.
The range difference is great :)
Very glad to hear this!

Attached are my own worries, I remember the days when my '16 DSR had 120-140 on its range at full charge, and granted I did less highway miles back then, but I've also experienced quicker charging on the stock charger, and it just *feels* like lowered capacity.

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Yep sandstone, I'm just tired of the black

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Why'd you break it, was the bolt rounded off?
It was frustrating to access the allen bolts, there's a lip on the frame after you move a lock of wires over (12v ext), you have a tiny bit of leverage to unscrew them and you have to do it from a weird angle without much space. Looks like the ABS/brake lines sit right next to them too - I could have probably got the left bolt if I kept trying but the right bolt would be a challenge anyways.

The actual solution is to use a longer tool from the bottom-up but I knew from https://www.electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=9664.msg85609#msg85609 that these little extra parts are made with brittle metal. My question now is will my new desert sand bodywork look dumb with a faded frame, we'll see  ;D

I’ll queue this up for the manual.
Gods work

Richard thx for chiming in, maybe the power tank was an earlier design? I never used that lock

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Did you paint that frame or has the anodising faded? Looks quite good, probably adds a bit of contrast with the black plastics.

The frame faded. First year that went by it was a kind of annoying purple color, another year or so and it became that grey (which i've come to like too!)

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