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Tech Help / Re: Zero FX 2013 died suddenly, good batteries, need help vs will sell bike
« on: January 09, 2023, 07:26:41 PM »
When you say "don't do what Jim did"....can I ask what you mean?  I have a Zero DS also and don't want it to die.  I drive the bikes, but the FX was for off-road and I would put 5-10 miles on it every week.  Low speed putt around the land stuff, check the fence lines.  My DS gets more miles because it is on the road.  Zero recommends storing the bikes at around 60% charge, so I tended to top it up here and there, but not keep it always 100%.  I gave up my ICE bikes because electric bikes are supposed to be low maintenance.  My FX was dead for maybe a month before I could drive to Atlanta, so maybe 6-8 weeks of sit time are my fault and they warned my their waiting list to look at the bike was 2 months, so I saw that extra time coming, but it was unavoidable.  (took them more like 4 months after all).  I didn't like the idea of the batteries not being monitored for 2 months, but what options did I have?  There aren't Zero dealers everywhere.  My gripe is not with WOW, it is firstly the inability to test components without swapping them out (i.e. $$$ just to perform diagnostics) and also a dealer's basic inability to charge the batteries without a functioning bike.

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Tech Help / Zero FX 2013 died suddenly, good batteries, need help vs will sell bike
« on: January 07, 2023, 04:05:03 AM »
Though not new to this forum, I have only been a lurker, so thanks all for the information over the years, but now I am asking for help.

I have a 2013 FX with 1500 miles on it.  It was a lemon from the beginning and the motor, throttle, and various other parts were replaced while it was in the shop for 6 months in the 2nd year of ownership (bought it new in 2015).

It was at 70% charge when I plugged in it December 2021, as I planned to go for a spin.  An hour or two later, I was working in the garage and happened to look over and saw the flashing green light stop as I watched.  I unplugged, and re-plugged and nothing.  Turn key and nothing.  Completely dead.  I took it to WOW motorcycles (Atlanta) within 2 months (I live a long ways away and it takes a day for me to do the trip).  They let it sit until around July 22 before they could look at it (thanks guys).  At that point they told me the batteries were dead but they had no way to attempt to charge it and basically they can't fix it because they can't even test it without charging the batteries.  If the batteries are dead, they died while the bike sat...2 months my fault, but 4 months at the shop.  Zero can't help (or won't).  They can't even seem to answer as to what other year models might fit the same batteries.  They can't provide the shop with an external charger either.  If the batteries are dead, at $6000, the bike is a coat hanger.

So. Any comments on how long it would take 70% FX 7.2kwh batteries to completely die?  This bike cost me $12k and at 1500 miles, I don't feel I got my money worth.  If I could at least charge the batteries I would do an ATV project with my 4-wheeler that decided it would die last month.  (and my truck 2 months ago and my tractor 1 month ago...arghhh must have a gremlin infestation). 

Presumably there is 1 little burnt out wire somewhere that wasted $12k.  Any comments on how I can recuperate some of this?

Thanks muchly.
Jim Wilson
Middle Georgia

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