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You're making a couple of naive errors that many new solar converts make. First, your "345W" solar panels will never deliver that. They may approach "rated" voltage unloaded; "rated" current into a short circuit; together, never. That's just how they rate them. You'll be doing well to deliver 250 actual watts on a good day in direct summer sunshine, or around 500 watts (0.5kw) between the two.

Your primary mistake, however, is conflating kwh and kw. A battery's capacity is rated in kwh, power is rated in kw. You're saying you want to charge a 13kwh battery (your bike) from your buddy's 2.4kwh battery. Do you see the problem with this? You could gain a partial charge, but only very partial. The solar array's ~0.500kw will help, of course, but only slowly.

Sure, you could do it, but only over the course of many hours and/or several days.

That makes sense. Trying to fully charge a 13kwh battery with a 2.4kwh battery will definitely not do it. I thought a battery's capacity is rated in aH?

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Assuming that the inverter will be able to sustain the 1300W (1.3KW) that the onboard charger will need, then you will be able to put back about 2000W (2KW) in your 13KW pack. You are limited by the capacity of the storage battery because the solar panels can't provide the 1300W for the charger. So after charging for about 1.5 hours your storage pack will be empty, and your motorcycle  SOC will be about 10% more than before you started charging from that 2400W storage pack, and only if it was fully charged.

Sounds like I would need more batteries if I wanted to fully charge my Zero without sun

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Well...

...Not really, since you're only producing <0.7KWh per hour the sun is up.

Maybe if the batteries were fully charged, and you plugged in while the panels were in full sun, you could charge using the default charger.

But you'll want an inverter with a capacity 50% more than the wattage of the bike's charger.  The peak power an inverter can produce is different than the throughput power it can produce for the hours needed to charge the bike.  The electronics will heat up and become less efficient at what they do and need to shed that heat somehow.

That's not to say there might not be a way to trickle-charge the battery.  I dunno.

-Crissa

The inverter is rated at 2000 watts and 4000 peak. Do you think that would be ok since the stock charger draws only 1.3-1.4kw?

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I don't see any reason why that wouldn't work, Andy Kirby (on Youtube) has a similar setup that he uses to charge his Twizzy and e-bikes. I assume this is stationary setup at your buddy's home, if so and you're going to be charging from it regularly I'd up the battery capacity if it's not too costly.

I was thinking of building a set up like he has. I would be charging mostly from the batteries as the sun will be going down when I'm plugging in.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Charging my Zero with a solar array
« on: April 24, 2020, 03:14:18 AM »
Hello all. My buddy built a solar charging array that consists of 2 solar panels rated at 37.93v / 9.09a  / 345w each. These 2 panels will be wired in paralled to get 37.93v / 18.18a / 689.56w for the 2 panels. These 2 panels will charge 2 lithium phosphate batteries rated at 12v x 100ah=1200wh each. The 2 batteries will be wired in series to get 24v x 100ah=2400wh. The inverter is rated for 2000watts at 24v. Would I be able to plug my onboard charger to the inverter to charge my zero s that has a 13kw battery with this setup? Thanks in advance.


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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: belt replacement
« on: October 01, 2019, 11:12:55 AM »
Thanks for the tip Shadow

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: belt replacement
« on: September 30, 2019, 10:43:01 AM »
Thanks for the video and help from everyone. I greatly appreciate it. I do have a belt already.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / belt replacement
« on: September 27, 2019, 11:27:11 AM »
I am way over due for a belt replacement that I would like to do myself and am trying to plan everything out beforehand. I'm not quite sure how to remove the swingarm to get the belt on. I have a rear stand that lifts the rear from the bottom of the swingarm but don't think I could use that and I don't have a center stand. If I were to put the bike on a front wheel chock to stabilize the bike would I be able to use a floor jack underneath the charger to raise it?

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Front brake light switch issue
« on: November 14, 2018, 11:53:24 AM »
I"m having intermittent issues with my front brake light switch not always activating and was wondering if anyone has replaced or repaired it before. Thanks

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: 2016 S Front brake caliper removal
« on: September 06, 2018, 10:27:37 AM »
2016 DSR Front Wheel Removal video:

Caveat that the production value of the video is not very high but I think this is close to what you are interested in.

I watched your video before I attempted to remove the front wheel and thought it was going to be easy but my caliper didn't just pull out like yours did. Do you have a 2016 with Jjuan brake calipers as well? Thanks for your help and response.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: 2016 S Front brake caliper removal
« on: September 06, 2018, 10:25:07 AM »
You shouldn't have to dismantle the caliper.  In fact don't do it!  :o You can remove the caliper by removing the two bolts that hold it to the fork. Then you take your hands and press the caliper and its pads against the brake disc, back and forth to spread the pads and force them back into the caliper. That will give you enough space to tilt the caliper to the outside and pass the wheel rim.  You can place some tape on the wheel rim to keep from scratching it while doing this. Be sure not to touch the brake lever while the caliper is off the fork. Reverse the process to install the caliper on the fork, then after the mounting bolts are replaced and torqued to the specified NM, squeeze the brake lever gently a couple of times to re-seat the pads against the disc and you are finished.

I will try it that way next time I have to remove it again. I did remove the mounting bolts but couldn't get the caliper off of the disc. I ended up removing the pads then the caliper slipped right out. Putting the caliper back on I had to put the caliper on first then slipped the pads in. Thanks for your help and response.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / 2016 S Front brake caliper removal
« on: September 03, 2018, 11:59:02 PM »
Hello all. I'm trying to remove the front rim off of the bike to install a new tire but i'm having trouble removing the caliper from the disc. It looks like I have to take the caliper apart to clear the rim to get it off of the disc and I can't figure it out how to do it. I've look at the unofficial service manual but it doesn't show that and I don't want to break anything. Does anybody know how it comes apart? I have removed the t25 bolt but it seems like there are 2 more spots with one being the pivot point and the other should come out but I don't want to try and force anything with a chance or breaking it. Thanks in advance

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / '16 S Front axle torque
« on: January 01, 2018, 10:55:51 AM »
I'm going to be replacing my front tire and trying to pre plan everything before I get started. I can't seem to find the torque spec for the front axle. Closes thing I see in the manual states Front axle end bolts 19 Ft-lb (26 Nm). I've searched on this forum but couldn't find anything. Anybody know?

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: tire suggestions: rear 2016 SR
« on: January 01, 2018, 10:43:06 AM »
I have a '16 S with the original Pirelli Sport Demons. I just replaced the rear tire today that had 25935 miles on it with about a 16th of an inch of tire left to the wear bar. I use my bike mainly for commuting in traffic. I am trying the Michelin Pilot streets this time around.

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What does tax credit mean? When I bought my 2016 s, it qualifyed for a $1400 tax credit. Does that mean I get $1400 back? Someone told me it would be $1400 off of your gross income.

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