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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: 2016 dsR
« on: October 28, 2025, 05:48:24 PM »
Thanks, I will have a look and dig them out
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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: How to make a powerful regen lever for your Zero
« on: October 26, 2025, 04:39:20 PM »
Just to bump this thread to 2025, my findings are as follows.
The Ixxat USB-to-CAN interface is now even harder to find
BorgWarner have bought Sevcon, and apparently make the Sevcon DVT application freely available, but I have not been able to locate it, nor had any responses to my emails.
There are now a variety of 0-5v cable pull pots available thanks to the influx of chinese ev scooters etc, so I feel that a clutch lever and cable is easier to implement, cheaper and slightly less messy : )
The Ixxat USB-to-CAN interface is now even harder to find
BorgWarner have bought Sevcon, and apparently make the Sevcon DVT application freely available, but I have not been able to locate it, nor had any responses to my emails.
There are now a variety of 0-5v cable pull pots available thanks to the influx of chinese ev scooters etc, so I feel that a clutch lever and cable is easier to implement, cheaper and slightly less messy : )
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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: 2016 dsR
« on: October 25, 2025, 11:09:47 PM »
Bike has arrived and I'm very happy with it overall.
I attempted to download both logs through the Zero app but it counted past 100% to 713% then the instrument cluster started flashing and it stopped.
Any ideas on how to obtain what capacity the BMS thinks the pack is Vs design capacity?
Zero spy shows pack capacity but that's current capacity (charge level)
I attempted to download both logs through the Zero app but it counted past 100% to 713% then the instrument cluster started flashing and it stopped.
Any ideas on how to obtain what capacity the BMS thinks the pack is Vs design capacity?
Zero spy shows pack capacity but that's current capacity (charge level)
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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: 2016 dsR
« on: October 20, 2025, 01:35:18 AM »
What is the pack size on your FX? 7?
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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: 2016 dsR
« on: October 17, 2025, 04:52:46 PM »
Thanks all for the valuable feedback.
Its cheap enough that I have pulled the trigger. I Will pull the BMS logs from it and parse the results to see what the BMS things capacity is VS rated, but as above, it appears it will just drop off a cliff in a short period of time.
can the BMS logs be obtained from the Zero App along with the MBB logs, or is this only available via serial console access to the BMS?
I would imagine a bike with low miles like this has probably not been fast charged, but sat around at various power levels for long periods of time, but you never know.
I think the idea of building another pack would not be too out there, especially as those cell prices really are not bad.
Its cheap enough that I have pulled the trigger. I Will pull the BMS logs from it and parse the results to see what the BMS things capacity is VS rated, but as above, it appears it will just drop off a cliff in a short period of time.
can the BMS logs be obtained from the Zero App along with the MBB logs, or is this only available via serial console access to the BMS?
I would imagine a bike with low miles like this has probably not been fast charged, but sat around at various power levels for long periods of time, but you never know.
I think the idea of building another pack would not be too out there, especially as those cell prices really are not bad.
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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / 2016 dsR
« on: October 16, 2025, 02:22:43 AM »
Hi all
I am thinking about a 2016 Zero DSR with approx 25k mikes onit.
I have lots of experience with EVs having built battery pack and lithium conversions and also building my own 35kw+ electric motorbike based on a Fazer 600.
I know some battery types age quicker with time Vs mileage and some types are inverse.
Are the zero packs likely to give issues at relatively low miles at around 9 years old? I appreciate I am unlike to have fantastic range but something like 60-70% health would be acceptable without a major failure requiring a pack rebuild
Advice much appreciated
I am thinking about a 2016 Zero DSR with approx 25k mikes onit.
I have lots of experience with EVs having built battery pack and lithium conversions and also building my own 35kw+ electric motorbike based on a Fazer 600.
I know some battery types age quicker with time Vs mileage and some types are inverse.
Are the zero packs likely to give issues at relatively low miles at around 9 years old? I appreciate I am unlike to have fantastic range but something like 60-70% health would be acceptable without a major failure requiring a pack rebuild
Advice much appreciated
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Home Brew / Re: DIY Charging system
« on: July 19, 2016, 04:03:50 AM »
Thanks for the response, that really is the best way to control them!
In the UK the charging points are mainly 3KW Type 2, or 7KW Type 2, with some 43KW type 2 available as well.
As well, it would be good to carry around 2 x flatpacks so that I can charge from 3 wall sockets. Drawing 20 amps MAX for the eltek through two plug sockets, and then 13 amps from another 3rd socket. Most ring circuits are 36amps here.
Having the arduino switch the current on the flatpacks is the icing on the cake! Thank you very much, I will definitely be building that controller!
In the UK the charging points are mainly 3KW Type 2, or 7KW Type 2, with some 43KW type 2 available as well.
As well, it would be good to carry around 2 x flatpacks so that I can charge from 3 wall sockets. Drawing 20 amps MAX for the eltek through two plug sockets, and then 13 amps from another 3rd socket. Most ring circuits are 36amps here.
Having the arduino switch the current on the flatpacks is the icing on the cake! Thank you very much, I will definitely be building that controller!
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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: How to make a powerful regen lever for your Zero
« on: July 18, 2016, 06:20:23 PM »With the DVT software, do I need to load a base configuration, or can it pull the configuration down from the sevcon?
Look for the manual thunderstruck puts out and you will see the first thing it tells you to do is download your current configuration files.
Don't skip this step!
Many thanks!
So, save the DCF before doing anything. Gotcha
(assume we are talking about this document?)
http://www.thunderstruck-ev.com/images/DVT%20Customer%20Manual.pdf
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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: How to make a powerful regen lever for your Zero
« on: July 18, 2016, 06:02:44 PM »
Thanks!
Yes, the reason I ask is that I have built something similar for my diesel bike project.
The lever on the governor is very hard to move, so takes a lot of effort. I drive the lever on the governor with a servo motor, and drive the servo with a controller.
The controller takes input from the throttle via a cable that moves a linear pot. After a while it has been reliable and required very few tweaks, just wondered if I could do that same with the regen lever!
I am now trying to find the sevon DVT software thats compatible with the 1.6 dongle. Lots of places say its easy to get, but I have only been able to find the 2.0 version. Trying to avoid buying a 1.6 dongle second hand, only to find out I am unable to get the software
With the DVT software, do I need to load a base configuration, or can it pull the configuration down from the sevcon?
Yes, the reason I ask is that I have built something similar for my diesel bike project.
The lever on the governor is very hard to move, so takes a lot of effort. I drive the lever on the governor with a servo motor, and drive the servo with a controller.
The controller takes input from the throttle via a cable that moves a linear pot. After a while it has been reliable and required very few tweaks, just wondered if I could do that same with the regen lever!
I am now trying to find the sevon DVT software thats compatible with the 1.6 dongle. Lots of places say its easy to get, but I have only been able to find the 2.0 version. Trying to avoid buying a 1.6 dongle second hand, only to find out I am unable to get the software
With the DVT software, do I need to load a base configuration, or can it pull the configuration down from the sevcon?
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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: How to make a powerful regen lever for your Zero
« on: July 16, 2016, 08:44:22 PM »
Great thread!
Sorry to drag an old thread up.
Can the sevcon use ANY 0-5v input for this (as long as its driven from the sevcon itself?) Is there any reason why I cant run a cable to a variable resistor from a lever or modify a lever to move a pot directly?
Sorry to drag an old thread up.
Can the sevcon use ANY 0-5v input for this (as long as its driven from the sevcon itself?) Is there any reason why I cant run a cable to a variable resistor from a lever or modify a lever to move a pot directly?
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Parts, Mods And Hacks / Re: Meanwell + server PSU charger
« on: July 13, 2016, 04:27:01 PM »
Ah ok I get it.
So the real question is, how much voltage drop do the Flatpack2 take before they go into protect mode?
That I will have to find out, because I can then look at the voltage cutout spec (for example the rsp-2000).
Thanks.
So the real question is, how much voltage drop do the Flatpack2 take before they go into protect mode?
That I will have to find out, because I can then look at the voltage cutout spec (for example the rsp-2000).
Thanks.
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Parts, Mods And Hacks / Re: Meanwell + server PSU charger
« on: July 13, 2016, 03:57:10 AM »
did you ever get anywhere with this?
I want to use 2 Elcon Flatpack2 HE 2000Watt psus in parallel and then another 2 x 1000watt 24v psu in series with them to give 7300 total charging power (including onboard) but read that there might be issues doing in this?
I want to use 2 Elcon Flatpack2 HE 2000Watt psus in parallel and then another 2 x 1000watt 24v psu in series with them to give 7300 total charging power (including onboard) but read that there might be issues doing in this?
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Home Brew / Re: DIY Charging system
« on: July 13, 2016, 03:43:36 AM »
further thoughts.
With a Type 2 Menenkes conenctor set at 7.2KW, I can use many charging points.
However, onboard, plus 4 Eltek flatpack2 he's = 9.3kw.
Can I wire 2 flatpacks in parallel and then another small power supply in series to make up 7kw?
With a Type 2 Menenkes conenctor set at 7.2KW, I can use many charging points.
However, onboard, plus 4 Eltek flatpack2 he's = 9.3kw.
Can I wire 2 flatpacks in parallel and then another small power supply in series to make up 7kw?
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General Discussion / Re: Bad news for UK riders
« on: July 12, 2016, 02:03:07 AM »I honestly never thought that charging would be cheap, and the chargers have been priced to deter slow charging vehicles (aka Outlanders) to keep them clear for vehicles that rapid charge. Basically Dale pretty much outright said that he's trying to discourage slow charging PHEV's from using the network.
As we are slow charging EV's, basically we are *NOT* Electric Highways customers.
Yes, but, with a fast charger (mine, or the diginow for example) you can get nearly 50% charge in 30 minutes.